Facing iso-cbet with OESD+over on wettish flop, 16BB
01-09-2016
, 01:49 PM
PokerStars - $14.39+$0.61|20/40 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hero (SB): 59.03 BB
BB: 15.98 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 30)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9
J
Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8
4
T
BB bets 2 BB, Hero ?
A call vs this 1/3 pot sizing is standard, as I don't think we have enough fold equity to shove, and we still have the opportunity to fold to a turn shove.
But I've got two other questions about this spot:
1) We shouldn't shove here against any sizing, right?
2) I would estimate that we should call bets up to around 200 here, and fold to bigger bets, assuming we've got 20% chance to improve to the best hand on the turn, we fold turn if we don't, and V is stacking off on the turn always. Am I close?
Hero (SB): 59.03 BB
BB: 15.98 BB (VPIP: 60.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: 21.43, Hands: 30)
Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB
Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9
J Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 2 BB
Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 8
4 T BB bets 2 BB, Hero ?
A call vs this 1/3 pot sizing is standard, as I don't think we have enough fold equity to shove, and we still have the opportunity to fold to a turn shove.
But I've got two other questions about this spot:
1) We shouldn't shove here against any sizing, right?
2) I would estimate that we should call bets up to around 200 here, and fold to bigger bets, assuming we've got 20% chance to improve to the best hand on the turn, we fold turn if we don't, and V is stacking off on the turn always. Am I close?
01-12-2016
, 04:43 AM
01-12-2016
, 01:11 PM
01-12-2016
, 03:33 PM
Because we likely have more than enough vs his shoving range.
From my experience if villain shoves, you are going to see something like overcards (AJ+), pp something like 99, 33-77, and very rarely overpair.
Just to give an example of what I've seen when villain raised preflop being bb and shipped over pot on the flop:
From my experience if villain shoves, you are going to see something like overcards (AJ+), pp something like 99, 33-77, and very rarely overpair.
Just to give an example of what I've seen when villain raised preflop being bb and shipped over pot on the flop:
Spoiler:
01-13-2016
, 01:27 PM
Quote:
Because we likely have more than enough vs his shoving range.
From my experience if villain shoves, you are going to see something like overcards (AJ+), pp something like 99, 33-77, and very rarely overpair.
Just to give an example of what I've seen when villain raised preflop being bb and shipped over pot on the flop:
From my experience if villain shoves, you are going to see something like overcards (AJ+), pp something like 99, 33-77, and very rarely overpair.
Just to give an example of what I've seen when villain raised preflop being bb and shipped over pot on the flop:
Spoiler: