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05-09-2010 , 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nezh
But seriously, doesnt Stars support do anything about this, or is the volume of complaints too small? The second matter can easily be addressed by the PPJ, it would require but a few gunslingers to sit a few of those idiots and write complaint emails.
In the few hours it takes to play one of these guys you could probably write a few emails yourself to Stars, PM every Stars employee here on 2p2, make a few threads on any other forums you're aware of about this and get everybody you know to send a template email to Stars about this little loophole.

Why do people care? Mostly because it bothers them to see somebody making money without (in their mind) earning it.

Why should people really care? Because this takes more money out of the games without any significant skill being used.

I admit I felt the former way before, nobody's perfect. Lets get Stars to fix the issue here, Marco can then grind regular speeds, he's probably a winner in them anyways and he can work hard to build a big ROI and then come back on here and give everybody ****
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05-09-2010 , 08:49 PM
The guy is making money. You guys make a mistake by registering in this game. This he exploits. Description says it all: Deep, no blind increase. It's your fault to register there, and it's irreversible. If somebody sells bad fastfood in a tourist area and makes lots of $$$ there, nobody would think of banning him from selling fastfood.
Timing down is also allowed by the site and you should expect it in any game from anyone.
The only thing you could ask for is a message box like "You are about to register ... are you sure?" or something like this. Even this I find highly doubtful.
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05-09-2010 , 08:53 PM
That position is ridiculous. There's no way timing down so that an SNG takes eight hours is a legitimate tactic sites should allow.
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05-09-2010 , 09:05 PM
this thread is so awesome
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05-09-2010 , 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. G
The guy is making money. You guys make a mistake by registering in this game. This he exploits. Description says it all: Deep, no blind increase. It's your fault to register there, and it's irreversible. If somebody sells bad fastfood in a tourist area and makes lots of $$$ there, nobody would think of banning him from selling fastfood.
Timing down is also allowed by the site and you should expect it in any game from anyone.
The only thing you could ask for is a message box like "You are about to register ... are you sure?" or something like this. Even this I find highly doubtful.
If someone setup a restaurant with horrible food, waited till someone accidentally wandered in, then locked the door and wouldn't let them out until they bought a really ****ty cheeseburger for 15$ they would do a lot more than ban the guy from selling fast food.
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05-09-2010 , 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr. G
The guy is making money. You guys make a mistake by registering in this game. This he exploits. Description says it all: Deep, no blind increase. It's your fault to register there, and it's irreversible. If somebody sells bad fastfood in a tourist area and makes lots of $$$ there, nobody would think of banning him from selling fastfood.
Timing down is also allowed by the site and you should expect it in any game from anyone.
The only thing you could ask for is a message box like "You are about to register ... are you sure?" or something like this. Even this I find highly doubtful.
Sure, if the rake were 10-20% for this game, that would make sense.

Your example is flawed because tourist trap towns don't really care about the quality of food they serve, people come for the tourist attractions (and thus neither do the tourist particularly or they would stop showing up). Stars cares about their customers and the integrity of the games. These games don't really promote a level playing field and are a little misleading.

Watch how many people would play these if a disclaimer was put on them stating that players are allowed to time bank stall (and often do) and these matches have lasted up to 8 hours before. If games die due to two pieces of information that everybody in this thread knows, then they aren't exactly fair games to begin with.

Nobody is saying the people sitting down should be refunded. Nobody is saying Marco should be banned from any games. People simply think that this is an easy thing for Stars to improve on their site and I agree.
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05-09-2010 , 09:32 PM
i only care about this becasue most recreational players play just to have a good time. when dirtbags like marco use the time down tactics, they end up never playing HUSNGs again since they had a bad experience with them in the past. so in a sense, marco is killing the games by using his scumbag tactics.
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05-09-2010 , 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by sbfootball_84
i only care about this becasue most recreational players play just to have a good time. when dirtbags like marco use the time down tactics, they end up never playing HUSNGs again since they had a bad experience with them in the past. so in a sense, marco is killing the games by using his scumbag tactics.
yep
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05-09-2010 , 11:14 PM
this song is top 5 post on 2p2
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05-10-2010 , 03:40 AM
don't you think less time for actions and a bigger time bank would make the deal for all speed limits? it even tilts me in turbos when an opponent 4 tables and takes 10 seconds for every preflop decision.
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05-10-2010 , 09:17 AM
Am I the only one who thinks this topic may have advertised cowboymarco strategy and there will be an influx of players playing NBI and timing out..I mean 65k is tempting for many

Now if this is true, there has to be done smth about NBI ( mostly because advertising it will make it worse than before)
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05-10-2010 , 10:45 AM
it doesnt really matter if some1 else is trying as stars has only one lobby and it is camped 24 7, even at these nbi's regs duke it out for the control of the lobby
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05-10-2010 , 11:13 AM
I'd keep the 50bb NBIs and kick out the 200bb ones, as they typically last pretty long and most players, be it fish or regulars, aren't prepared to battle it out for several hours. If marco wants to steal, he can do that at the 50bbs, but that can under no circumstances last more than 2 hours, and usually no more than 1 hr
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05-10-2010 , 11:51 AM
lol is this guy for real? i havent bumped in to him yet
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05-10-2010 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by GBP04
this song is top 5 post on 2p2
other top 4?
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05-10-2010 , 01:33 PM
maybe Stars should implement a mercy button. if by, say, the first break (lol yes there are breaks in the NBIs) either party wants to leave the game, then buy-ins are refunded according to chip counts. so it's kinda like a cash game: you leave with the stack size you had at that point. i am quite sure that this idea has like a negative infinity chance of ever happening.

also, marco, if i transferred funds to you would you be willing to have a venus fly trap icon? i just want a photo op moment playing at your table with you sporting that icon.
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05-10-2010 , 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by another_rack
haha
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05-10-2010 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by derosnec

also, marco, if i transferred funds to you would you be willing to have a venus fly trap icon? i just want a photo op moment playing at your table with you sporting that icon.
This would be pretty funny. Marco would move from a 1 to a 2 in the 2p2 "cool" rankings, a very prestigious ladder ranking system.
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05-10-2010 , 02:02 PM
I'd probably throw down a few bucks as well for the flytrap improvement

Last edited by GBP04; 05-10-2010 at 02:02 PM. Reason: flytrap improvements
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05-10-2010 , 04:19 PM
Honestly poker stars and other poker sites don't care about the player base. They are only interested in their own bottom line.
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05-10-2010 , 04:24 PM
it seems he is not the only one: today I have played 2 guys on titan poker that did the same , the waited till the last second to make a move.

The frustrating thing is that they deliberately waited till last second even when they folded / made theyr decision instantly , so they timeout on purpose.

The ting is I multitabled on 2 tables so they did not bore me , but I still do not understand what advantages can they get out of this: normal players do not tilt , and
the game gets to blinds t100 and it is push/fold , luck prevails.

There is no advantage in doing this thing , plus they have to wait half an hour for every game they play.

I do not understand how doing this timeout helps their income in the long run , by my logic they are losing money (if they win 50+x % games * games a day = wins a day , but if they half the amount of games they half their income)
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05-10-2010 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerfun666
it seems he is not the only one: today I have played 2 guys on titan poker that did the same , the waited till the last second to make a move.

The frustrating thing is that they deliberately waited till last second even when they folded / made theyr decision instantly , so they timeout on purpose.

The ting is I multitabled on 2 tables so they did not bore me , but I still do not understand what advantages can they get out of this: normal players do not tilt , and
the game gets to blinds t100 and it is push/fold , luck prevails.

There is no advantage in doing this thing , plus they have to wait half an hour for every game they play.

I do not understand how doing this timeout helps their income in the long run , by my logic they are losing money (if they win 50+x % games * games a day = wins a day , but if they half the amount of games they half their income)
It's about no blind increase structure
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05-10-2010 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by borderline
Honestly poker stars and other poker sites don't care about the player base. They are only interested in their own bottom line.
If all they cared about was their bottom line they would not offer these games (look up my older post in this thread explaining why they make much less in these games and it's a bad thing for their bottom line due to fish losing money faster).

They would've also added a faster turbo structure by now if they just wanted more rake per dollar lost from casual players.
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05-10-2010 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by marcobbnzr
When you have 28% ROI after 19k you are welcome to judge me...
almost time to move up?
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