lol, played him for 1 min ago, and every decision took like 1 min. And he played very strength.

First hand: Open shoved
A few hands later: i 3bet pre, and cb the flop, he jamed over for like 1 bilion bbs with TPTK

ZOMG i just played this guy he is rediculous...he is soooo slow and it tilts me so hard...so i shoved a few times hoping to end it...then I just started making my pf raises 15-20x...he eventually shove a high on a flop...did anyone notice his sharkscope tho??? I really wonder if he grinds those for a living using his tilt tactics to get wins...

I think that I have proven myself enough to avoid such stupid comments.
There is no ****ing explanation, maybe im just better than you?!
When you have 28% ROI after 19k you are welcome to judge me...

lol ok buddy u tilted me enough that I will sit you whenever your on and destroy you, If you do this for a living I suggest you fill out some applications soon because your dealing with a special person here.

Satisfaction Im gonna get from putting a downswing in your graph is gona be awesome


dunno whats gonna tilt you more the fact that timing down dont bother me or the fact your gonna spend 6 hours per match and lose 9 out of 10

well do you time down on every decission?

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Maybe you should learn how to play poker

To be fair, only 76k of his 86k in profit is from those no blind increase games.

It's Stars fault for allowing them really. If Marco didn't utilize the loophole, somebody else who is fine making that much money off of guys that accidentally sit would be doing the same thing.

I wish you luck Nemo, I'm not crazy enough to play for 6 hours, I'm sure if a few of us put 6 hours of time into talking with Stars we could get the games shut down given how many people complain about accidentally sitting in them and end up giving money away to the "regs" in them.

Wait a second...

when im the best in the world at "my" limits then maybe you should think about it because I cant be that wrong...

Why 95% of the posts here are full of hatred?
Well, criticise me, have fun!

Marco,

A lot of players that play these no blind increase games seem to make a great deal of their money from players accidentally sitting in their games, playing for awhile and getting frustrated and just outright spewing.

People have a problem with this because it's kind of unethical or crappy to make money off of people that accidentally play you.

I guess it's kind of like owning a road that people sometimes accidentally turn onto and setting up an expensive toll booth for anybody that turns around. The other option is to drive for 6 hours to get back to where you started, relatively free (minus gas, or in this case your edge against a regular player that wants to play you).

In my example you might not catch so much flack, the government would just shut you down unless you're in some 3rd world country (in the poker world this would be like UB/AP), where it might be allowed.

In short, the way these are labeled kind of encourages this stuff to happen and it should've been stopped awhile ago.

If you were a low stakes regular speed player that had make 80k, people would be PM spamming you for coaching/advice/contact info and you would be a small hero around here.

I read somewhere that constant outtiming will be prohibited by TOC. It might have been FTP, but I'm sure it was official.

i know i've said it before in other posts, but i dedicated a few hours before to playing these 20%+ ROI NBI scum for the hell of it (though i have not played marco) and every single one of them is absolutely positively among the worst winning poker players i have ever played. to think they have taken hundreds of thousands of $$ combined out of the low stakes HUSNG pool/economy is disgusting. i'm all for players making money with skill but these guys don't use skill. they just wait for people to get frustrated and eventually give up in various ways. there is no way these guys could beat non-NBIs for more than 1%, if that (with the exception of marco since i have not played him and know nothing about him).

(actually why am i complaining, i should do this too)

Marco,

Do you or don't you time down every hand on purpose just to irritate your opponent? If yes, then that's why people don't respect you. You're abusing the software to cause your opponent to give up and start shoving every hand or sit out or play badly. Instead of using just your poker skill to defeat him.

File a complaint with the site and have them check if this is his regular modus operandi. If it is, they should take care of him. Or get rid him. No doubt Stars would deal swiftly with such kind of isiots, not too sure about FT, support is kinda meh.

There can't be that much value in actively pissing people off, can there? I mean, you'd think a number of these people would start spewing anyway once they realize how boring these SNGs are, and that any increased spewing you'd get from a ton of stalling wouldn't make up for the damage it does to your hourly.

I'm not arguing on marco's or anyone's behalf or anything btw, just thinking out loud.

The 'value' really kicks in when you start adding up the delay created by timing down to the maximum (what is it on Stars? 15-20 secs?) for every single decision of every single hand. Compare that to normal timing, where obvious plays (like raising on the button, making a trivial call/fold, etc.) and actions can happen in less than a second.

Eventually, the person who's timing down at every conceivable opportunity locks his opponent into a 6 hour+ engagement for whatever the buy-in is.

Unless said opponent is a multi-tabling poker reg who's spending a large continuous chunk of time in front of his PC anyway, the victim of the timing down tactic will simply give up and sit out when stacks are not significantly uneven in his favor, or he'll give up by open shoving every hand. Or occasionally he'll hang in there out of sheer spite, I guess, and his play may or may not be conditioned by low-level tilt.

Meanwhile, the professional deep stack NBI time-down artist is multi-tabling 10 of these in the same manner, has planned his schedule ahead of time (has probably organized his life around this operation), is deaf in any case to arguments about how his hourly might improve if he played normally, worships his ROI, and ruins the NBI format for everyone else. And mind-rapes people who register for these things by mistake or just to try them.

I think you misunderstood. I know how the timing down angle is supposed to work, I was just speculating on if it's actually losing people money by ****ing their hourly for more $ than they can get the other person to spew back at them.

Also, I don't think these epic 6+ hour matches happen very much. I occasionally check the games running because I think I'd get some sick pleasure out of seeing one that's lasted for 10+ hours but I rarely see them even get over 2.

You should blog about this quest. It should be hilarious, maybe team-up with Sejje lolz

Yeah,

i agree about it being predatory and feeding off people accidently regging for them,

but FWIW i accidently sat him once and i was so distressed i posted in LC and SPEKTAH spoke to him and asked him if he would discuss a chop cos i was a 2p2er who reg'd by mistake.

He was happy to do it and was pleasant to deal with, so while its not helpful to the general poker community, you might save a buy-in or six hours of ur life if u just try chop it.

p.s. if any of u have tried this and he doesnt respond or says no, then my bad, but i thought i would at least let you know he has been known to show mercy.

Ndogy was he timing down every hand on you?

yeah,

as far as i can remember he was, which was what prompted me to post in LC at the time.

Yeah, he prob only chopped because that guy asked him to, and he didn't wanna seem like a douche but I doubt he would have just to be nice..like if you asked him in chat he prob would have ignored you

WTF do these things exist for. Think I've played 3 or 4 and every time it turned out the other guy had also regged by accident and we chopped. I imagine the majority of ppl who intentionally sign up for one don't understand what they're letting themselves in for and start tilt shoving at some point.

Oh for sure,

it was prolly more to do with spektah than me,

but i thought i would at least put it out there.

-increase is the -hax tho