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Old 03-09-2012, 08:03 AM   #276
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

Really, really, really want to see emotionx lose greenline+ship redline.
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Old 03-09-2012, 08:32 AM   #277
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that would be the funniest result idd lol, was like that yesterday whole time but he took like 8 bi in a row (
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Old 03-09-2012, 09:17 AM   #278
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

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No. 500 chips = $58.74.
still not true. there is no icm hu but there are other factors like roi
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:29 AM   #279
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In 6-max SnG's yeah your ICM EV changes even when youre not in the hand sometimes.
This sentence illustrates high liklihood of mutiple, significant misunderstandings. Feel free to re-explain if you care. Fwiw I don't care that much either.


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still not true. there is no icm hu but there are other factors like roi
Why does roi change the value of a chip of a finished game?? I can understand at the start of a game or during a game this possibly making sense. But wtf?

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but if you're a purist, it wont match absolutely 100%, at least never did for me when i translated t500 chips =buyin-rake
Are you talking about matching up $EV to chips won/lost? OR actual $ to chips won/lost? I'm pretty sure the latter should always equal up in the long run.
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Old 03-09-2012, 11:45 AM   #280
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

My head hurts... At least that post wasn't as bad as some other ones UTI

Are we ready to start playing today soon, Emillio?

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Also, Emillio is not here now, so I will go do some stuff which I would otherwise rescheduled for later. So won't be here for a number of hours...

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Old 03-09-2012, 12:20 PM   #281
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we playing in 20 mins
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:13 PM   #282
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Why does roi change the value of a chip of a finished game?? I can understand at the start of a game or during a game this possibly making sense. But wtf?
after the end of the game, there is a stack of 1000 chips worth $117.48. for the sake of wasting brainpower you might as well say each chip is $0.11748 altho thats useless since you cant single out one chip from that group. during the game there are two stacks adding up to $117.48 in equity, but if one player has the edge their equities wont be proportional to their chip amounts. as an obvious example, if you have 1 chip and villain has 999 chips and he was just shot dead by gangsters in an internet cafe, you're 100% certain to win the match, so that chip has an equity of $117.48 while villains chips are worthless. if you consider all chips equal, your chip's equity will be $0.11748. that would mean that there is about $117.36 in equity missing, which must be in villain's hands, which is contradiction since he is literally (drawing) dead. I dont know whether these $EV distortions screw up the red line in the long run, i'll have to think more about that

either way tho after the hu4rollz is done one player will be up in EV chips graph and the other one will be down, so I don't see a real reason to waste time with $EV. the chip EV winner will also be the $EV winner (at least using the HEM1 method)
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Old 03-09-2012, 02:21 PM   #283
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we played very short session, had some dc problems and removed 1 game, he ran pretty good in card distribution but i think i played pretty fine and superiorly

63-67~ to his lead atm

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Old 03-09-2012, 02:24 PM   #284
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Games Played: 130

Hyi_Vam Giraffe:

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Emotionx Giraffe:

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Notes: we agreed to remove T#529655774 from the results as emotion disconnected and lost some chips in it. That game is removed from graphs.

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Old 03-09-2012, 03:20 PM   #285
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

hey, sry this might be a total noob-questions, but shouldn't the graphs look like the opposite. i mean how can badmafo be up around 100$ in ev but emontionx is around 400$ down in ev. end the green line even differs more...
the only idea i have is, that its because of the rake somehow.. but i dont get it.
could somebody explain that.

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edit: okay the graphs basically look like the opposite of each ohter but how i have to count rake into those graphs to get the same numbers like in the graphs..?
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:24 PM   #286
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

emotionx is down 400$. that's the money lost to badmofu + rake.
badmofo is up 100$. that's the money emotionx has lost subtracting the rake emotionx paid and then subtracting the rake badmofo pays
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:30 PM   #287
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ye basically im down his rake + my rake when hes making 0$

badmofu is up about 9.X buy ins, but take into account, that every buy in i win, it gets substracted from his graph, and mine goes 1 bi up, so its like halving it, aka he has a 4.X BI lead over me, which is gna make my win just more exciting!
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Old 03-09-2012, 03:41 PM   #288
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thx xereles,

so basically if you have a loosing stretch it looks more bad than a winning stretch looks good (in graphs), because of the rake.., right?

gl to both of the players (didnt want to offend somebody )
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Old 03-09-2012, 10:07 PM   #289
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

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^rooting for you
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Old 03-10-2012, 02:34 AM   #290
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

lol I really like his drunk post! I'll give 2.5 : 1 on hyi_vam up to 1k (my 2500 to your 1k), quote to book


edit: oops as I was posting this I saw the new results out, not sure how odds will change but offer still stands I guess


edit2: obv have to quote to book before next session
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:11 AM   #291
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lol I really like his drunk post! I'll give 2.5 : 1 on hyi_vam up to 1k (my 2500 to your 1k), quote to book


edit: oops as I was posting this I saw the new results out, not sure how odds will change but offer still stands I guess


edit2: obv have to quote to book before next session
my 150 to your 375?
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:03 AM   #292
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lol I really like his drunk post! I'll give 2.5 : 1 on hyi_vam up to 1k (my 2500 to your 1k), quote to book


edit: oops as I was posting this I saw the new results out, not sure how odds will change but offer still stands I guess


edit2: obv have to quote to book before next session
i'll take my 500 on emo to your 1250 on hyi? if that's what you mean

edit: f it, i'll take the rest since im feeling degen (if that's what you meant anyway)
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Old 03-10-2012, 04:59 AM   #293
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lol I really like his drunk post! I'll give 2.5 : 1 on hyi_vam up to 1k (my 2500 to your 1k), quote to book


edit: oops as I was posting this I saw the new results out, not sure how odds will change but offer still stands I guess


edit2: obv have to quote to book before next session
gogogo
so my 1k on emotionx vs ur 2.5k on hyi? is that correct, im in
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Old 03-10-2012, 09:32 AM   #294
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solid action guys , i work better under pressure

sick odds from primo lol, i wanted to buy but 2late i guess

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Old 03-10-2012, 09:39 AM   #295
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^rooting for you
i always wished i was emo irl so all this type of jokes would actually be pretty funny, i think id even make a pic of me cutting my wrists if i lose and stuff just for the rail

.. not the case
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:28 AM   #296
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starting in 30-40mins, longsesh today!
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Old 03-10-2012, 10:31 AM   #297
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Ill take my $1k on emo vs $2.4k on me.

So if Emo wins - I pay $1k. If I win - I get $2.4k.

Emo, buy it out, we can escrow moar imo
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Old 03-10-2012, 11:06 AM   #298
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Ill take my $1k on emo vs $2.4k on me.

So if Emo wins - I pay $1k. If I win - I get $2.4k.

Emo, buy it out, we can escrow moar imo
Never mind this, I misread the lines...
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Old 03-10-2012, 03:19 PM   #299
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doing long session, he keeps running sick in card distribution and doing random +6 bi swings in 5min while i have to grind down equity slowly to get all back, pretty annoying, but i think im playing better overall and hope after 1k games it balances out *crossfingers*

i dont want to be seen as a whiny btich but the fact that im winning at 3b/100 in bb and -7 at sb proofs enough of how sick is both lines variance,aka this hu4rollz is stupid with redline but whatever


i think hes about 6 bi up overall

700 games left gogo

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Old 03-10-2012, 03:52 PM   #300
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i dont want to be seen as a whiny btich but the fact that im winning at 3b/100 in bb and -7 at sb proofs enough of how sick is both lines variance,aka this hu4rollz is stupid with redline but whatever
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