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Old 03-08-2012, 05:56 PM   #226
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

it's not that hard. after the games both req. hhs from stars and send them to nemo,skai, whoever.
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Old 03-08-2012, 05:58 PM   #227
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i have several times asked for stars HHs and they dont do custom filters but whatever.. would feel ******ed to play 1k games only to see stars cant do that lol
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:02 PM   #228
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

Oh, they can never do any kind of filter. They just send it in bulk in 1 file.. *one thing stars needs to work on imo*

But that is not a problem. As the judges can go to chip EV and filter out only me vs you or you vs me. Then it only accounts for hands we played against each other and all the "unwanted" games vs randoms will be filtered out.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:26 PM   #229
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

so basically due to red line hu4rollz i have to filter out all the 87 games between everything i played today (a lot), with no other filter than opening a notepad and checking everytime, and not only do i have to do this today, but everyday in the hu4rollz.. so ill spend more time digging in HHs than playing you actually, seems fun
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:26 PM   #230
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

i have to admit i envisaged this whole thing either not happening or being really entertaining. hyi's kinda driven it somewhere inbetween and i don't like it!
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:27 PM   #231
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and emx it might be quicker to use HEM and get the tourny IDs of the games? just filter to games vs hyi and jot down the last 3 numbers or something and then go select them all from your HH folder? dunno, just a suggestion, seems like there ought to be an easier way
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:36 PM   #232
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

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so basically due to red line hu4rollz i have to filter out all the 87 games between everything i played today (a lot), with no other filter than opening a notepad and checking everytime, and not only do i have to do this today, but everyday in the hu4rollz.. so ill spend more time digging in HHs than playing you actually, seems fun
Maybe going into your HH's folder and using windows search by files "containing the word <his sn here>" might work? Haven't tested it though.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:38 PM   #233
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

The HH can be organized by time. So as long as you're not playing anyone els while playing vs him, it should be quite easy.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:51 PM   #234
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

I really, REALLY don't want this to turn into a thread of trying to figure out a way not to let me win this.

For some reason emotionx is getting more cred then he deserves. At first the negative wibes toward me ITT amused me, now, when there is $20,000 at stake it starts to play on my nerves.

So can we just have everything done fairly from this point and cut the crap. From now on, if anyone, especially emotionx, tries to accuse me of any kind of manipulating EV or any other sort of ****, I would like there to be clear proof of it. People who are not regulars to this thread/forum may read that and have a wrong idea about me. As this is what already happened from Emille talking about me in such a tone in public and me not responding in the same way.

Now, that being said. I have received today's HH's from PokerStars. I have a link, and I can share it with one or two of you. I would like to give this link to someone (any takers?) so he could import it and compare it to my result, the one which emotionx doesnt agree with. It is:

- 87 games

- I'm up 1876.55 chips (or $225.19) (or 3.75 Buy-Inn's)
- Emotionx down same amounts

Which makes a total lead of 3753.10 chips (or $450.37) (or 7.51 Buy-Inn's) in my favour


If I'm wrong I'm wrong.

Again, if I end up losing the bet its fine. I just want there not to be any second guessing.

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Old 03-08-2012, 06:53 PM   #235
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

my opinion is, if u guys play ev line, the game totaly changes, so think again...and start playing normal, so we can all enjoy and have information about score and stuff...so much less troubles...just my opinion obv.

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Old 03-08-2012, 06:55 PM   #236
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

EV line makes this a test of skill. Greenline makes this a $10k flip.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:57 PM   #237
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I can take the HHs and look it over. Send me a pm with ure skype, msn or mail and i will import them and write the score with a .jpg uploaded.
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Old 03-08-2012, 06:58 PM   #238
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

"OMG hu4rollz"

"Dude, it's EV hu4rollz."

"Oh."
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:02 PM   #239
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

i can help out too if needed. pm me your skype info
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:02 PM   #240
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

Also, EV line has plenty of variance too, it can still be quite exciting
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:05 PM   #241
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

i found the problem, one of my hhs is saying u won but cashed in 0$, your ev is 108$ after the games, your count of chip EV is completely off though lol, 500chips aint exactly 60$ due to blinds change and minimum ICM existing in husngs.

They were refering to pt3 chip ev graphs which is way different

so basically, you're up 108$ , im down 327$, which is indeed a 7bi lead asuming the guy with biggest redline wins

cant say much from the match since 87 games is just like rouletting EV, we will see after decent sample

glgl


**edit: im so troubled with this hu4redlines wtf, if hes up 7 bi it doesnt matter ? Its like 3.5 cos every buy in i gain, he loses it?
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:06 PM   #242
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Also, EV line has plenty of variance too, it can still be quite exciting
yeh cause you're all about the excitement...
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:07 PM   #243
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yeh cause you're all about the excitement...
No, I'm all about EV. +EV
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:07 PM   #244
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

over a 1000 game sample of hypers I would guess, ev line has almost as much variance as normal.
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:07 PM   #245
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

also seems weird to change to chipEV now if it wasn't agreed beforehand? only change you should be making is to THE MOTHER****ING GREEN LINE weeeeeee
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:09 PM   #246
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Re: ** emotionx vs hyi_vam hu4rolls 10k bet **

I can easily enough write a script to pull out only appropriate HH files from a folder of many. I mean you just need to search for text files containing "emotionx" or "hyi_vam", right? depending on whose archive.
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:11 PM   #247
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i found the problem, one of my hhs is saying u won but cashed in 0$, your ev is 108$ after the games, your count of chip EV is completely off though lol, 500chips aint exactly 60$ due to blinds change and minimum ICM existing in husngs.

They were refering to pt3 chip ev graphs which is way different

so basically, you're up 108$ , im down 327$, which is indeed a 7bi lead asuming the guy with biggest redline wins

cant say much from the match since 87 games is just like rouletting EV, we will see after decent sample

glgl
Ok, that better. Still not exactly my results but $6 difference is better then $200 difference

There is no ICM EV in Heads up Sit&Go's. 500 chips = $60. Always. Regardless of blind levels and such stuff. In 6-max SnG's yeah your ICM EV changes even when youre not in the hand sometimes. Thats why redline propbet would really not even be possible in those. Only in HU it is.

And lastly, Tha sample is very small indeed, you were 9 b-i ahead after like 20 games. Trust me, I make no conclusions yet, as you have played quite well and I did get some cards...

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I can easily enough write a script to pull out only appropriate HH files from a folder of many. I mean you just need to search for text files containing "emotionx" or "hyi_vam", right? depending on whose archive.
Yes

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**edit: im so troubled with this hu4redlines wtf, if hes up 7 bi it doesnt matter ? Its like 3.5 cos every buy in i gain, he loses it?
Yes, correct, technically its 7.5, but you have to "own" me for 3,75 to get it back as whenever you gain $1 - I lose $1.

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asuming the guy with biggest redline wins
knowing the guy with biggest redline wins

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Old 03-08-2012, 07:15 PM   #248
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how is it not working to go to the reports tab, click filters and enable "vs player" ?
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:18 PM   #249
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Sigh..... This hu4rollz had potential to be one of the greatest ever with all of the trash talking, genuine dislike, big $10k side bet...etc. Why did you have to start being a ***** about the ev terms and make it so tilting to follow?
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Old 03-08-2012, 07:22 PM   #250
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Sigh..... This hu4rollz had potential to be one of the greatest ever with all of the trash talking, genuine dislike, big $10k side bet...etc. Why did you have to start being a ***** about the ev terms and make it so tilting to follow?
Because the first thing on my mind, when making a bet that's +EV in my head, is making sure it is entertaining for you.

Maybe next time I will just coinflip for bankrolls, that more entertaining then trying to double your roll by grinding a lot of poker for a lot of month isn't it?

P.S. this still has the potential to be extremely entertaining too, when I start losing in redline and winning in green. For all you that dont like me this will be more epic then just having me lose the green line, wouldn't it? Irony can be a ***** lol. I was 150 b-i below EV before I got EV insurance, and now I am $11k above EV after I made that deal.
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