I don't seem to remember fish getting this lucky 10 years ago. U shop it prelfop with ak they snap call with QT like it's some monster hand and win half the time. Am I just not remembering because it seems to be that these fish run great now

I don't think this belongs in HUSNG/Spins, anyway, sometimes they win and we can't do anything about it.

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AK has stop holding for the last few years i have noticed

There are people with millions in tournament winnings with less than 10 tournaments played lifetime #enoughsaid #justsaying

A lot of progress has been made with new tools such as GTOrangebuilder, Piosolver and Equilab, we have a much better understanding of poker situations than previously.

One conclusion is that AK vs QT is more like 51-49% these days.

Adjust accordingly.

So the odds where different 10 years ago?

Continually evolving.

haha

Not different, just wrong.

One thing GTO solvers have been good at is showing that cards like Q and T flop better than we thought when we used Monte Carlo style simulations like pokerstove. Neural networks and quantum computing will likely see us get more accurate preflop odds so expect more % changes

So how did my better hands hold up more 10 years ago? The odds are the odds, the ha d's just win less now. QT BEAT AK less 10 years ago the. It did now. Did no he Carlo change how often a hand wins on 2017?

Online poker rng's have changed.

They now count an ace as low i.e. as part of the wheel draw (because of the hi lo variants becoming more popular).

So when groups of Broadway are shuffled together the aces are more likely to be bunched with the low wheel draw cards.

This means T and Q will come out more often than aces when Broadway cards are being dealt. When aces where strictly high cards this bias wasn't prevelant.

Also because of solvers we know the true odds are different and shuffling algorithms have been tweaked to reflect this


Very subtle effect. You've done well to notice it

Is this true?

Yes.

Stars and full tilt did a public consultation with regs at the 2009 players meeting.

It was agreed that the algorithms should be adjusted to match the more accurate odds computed by the GTO solvers.

A bit like when scientist add a few billionths of a second to the world's atomic standard clocks to make up for errors found with more accurate models of the earth's rotation around the sun.

The odds will likely have to be manually adjusted when Google's neural networks and quantum computing gives us more accurate flop distributions and draws card removal effects are better understood

Brutal

There's still no fix for live poker.

Online we can tweak the rng. But live dealers are still dealing according to pre GTO odds and card removal.

Extra training will be needed going forward so live dealers can deal according to the new preflop odds theory

How could they deal differently live tho?

That's the problem that hasn't been solved yet

I don't see how it's a problem tho. If it's dealt random and board runs out random then this e are the results. Why does online poker feel the need to change results? Hardly seems like they are offering a fair game if they are changing results.

Think about 5 and T cards. You can't make a straight in Holdem without a 5 or a T either in your hole cards or on the board. JT, when it makes a straight always makes the nut straight. This means holding a T makes you more likely to hit a straight and it blocks your opponent making a straight.

This means you cannot just treat a Ten as another card, just 1 of 52. It's striaght makjng and blocking effects mean it was undervalued when rated just as another card. Before solvers we didn't understand this and so QT wasn't winning as much as it should. Hence the adjustments in 2009 to all the major rngs. (If you want to play on a pre GTO rng some Euro sites like sky poker still have the old, now proven innacurate flop distributions).

The effects are more subtle, but the changes you have noticed are a result of the general idea

What type of programs or software do recommend I study?

Harrington on holdem is pretty good mate

I mean I got a win rate online of about 8bb-100 hands now over the last 2 years. Obviously I feel it should be more.

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