Hello everyone,
the goal of this topic is to publicize as much as possible something that is happening on most of the second tier poker sites. Today we're going to talk about the bots in HUSNG on Chico Network, and how the administration of the sites ignores them and doesn't take any action in order to keep the action, at least that's what they think I guess. So let start right the way!
I am heavily convinced that the following players are bots:
URMOMHOTBRA
OOORLY?
ORBANVITYA88
GaborsPekPek



optimus23prime (unlike the first 4 bots, he's an operator using helping gto software and not a straight bot)

The first 4 bots are straight bots, left to play autonomously without the need of an operator. They are playing huge distances (not impossibly huge, as a player could play the same amount too, but it's rarely that you see someone playing between 1500-2200 hu sng a month, specially considering they are playing only turbo/reg speed & no hypers, it will take around 23 days a month with at least 9 hours of pure play a day. And anyone who played husng knows it's almost impossible to do that on a constant basis.
Indeed, those bots cover the lobby for almost 24/7 in order to take the first places in the weekly sng challenge on chico > https://promotions.tigergaming.com/w...n-go-challenge.
More over, they have almost identical style/stats, preflop and postflop:
-same limp/open raise ratio
-high check-raise on the flop (limp & raised pot)
-all of them are using overbets on the flop (It's something that you see pretty rare in husng)
-low fold to 3bet

In regards to optimus23prime, he's not a typical autonomous bot, he's using a helping software, that tells him in real time how to play. I've played against him too and I can assure you his game is way too close to GTO, no human can play this way. It's even more interesting to mention that he's not active on Pokerstars and IS BANNED ON PARTYPOKER FOR BEING A BOT. Chico, along any other site that he's playing on, should contact party poker to get the details.

What conclusion can we make? Besides partypoker and pokerstars, noone tries to fight bots, because they are simply afraid that without bots they will lose some of their traffic, and ofcourse this is completely wrong.
However, there are thousands of players that are afraid to go play away from pokerstars, because it's infested by bots. Also, recreational player who are always suspicious about RNG will soon avoid online poker at all cost when there will be mass talk and worries about bots! We should fight now while it's not too late. I ask you to do your part by sharing this topic with other players/affilates and by writing letters to chico network administration using the following emails :

poker@sportsbetting.ag
poker@BetOnline.ag
support@tigergaming.com

Chico hypers are also botted heavily from lowstakes and up. Pretty sad, really. Can't recommend playing hu there at all.

Was pretty sure about that, but didn't played hypers on Chico, if needed I will play them and come up with a list of bots in hypers. But it's just unbelievable how many bots there are on chico, affilates just don't care about it, so does the admionistration, all of them are ruled by greed. Maybe someone come up with some facts & niknames about bots in hypers on chico!

From hands what i saw GaborsPekPek plays like donk.Stack off light.Non sense bluffs.Weird overbets.Never fold pre.Cant believe this is some gto machine.
But plays whole day and holds 7-200s lobby.This is suspicious.Never seen that before.

I never said GaborsPekPek plays by GTO, because he's not. And I've made an alias on them, I am winning against them on a couple hundred of tournaments, which already says they are not GTO bots. But still, because of the high rake it doesn't make any sense to play against them.
The only GTO bot from the one that were listed above is optimus23prime

I've talked with a representantive of Chico Network. He told me they're trying to gather information and soon bots will be punished, After couple of days, I enter the lobby and all the same bots are there.
I've wrote them back and tried to get an explanation. So they told me banning those bots won't change anything, since it won't completely solve the problem and another bot will replace the old one. This sound really odd to me, so you don't ban bot that is using prohibited software, just because this won't completely solve the bot problem. How about this, HE IS INTENTIONALLY VIOLATING THE RULES, doesn't this mean that he should be punished?
What's even more strange is that even if it won't completely solve the problem, banning a bot and taking his funds and give them back to players is an act of justice. But also the next time the bots will think twice between comming back. And while I do agree that just banning bots don't solve 100% the problem, it leaves them with no source of income, they lose BR + stable income, and they are more scared to play on a network that gives them a fight
Also affilates that invite bots to a room should be punished by paying back all the rakeback, and this will demotivate bots even more, since they'll have worse deal/rakeback, and it's going to be harder to make profit.
From what I see, Chico doesn't want to fight the bots, and is gladly to use them to increase their rake.

Wow that's a pretty poor response. Can you copy/paste the email/convo here?

I wanna see this chat log.

https://prnt.sc/oiiv65

I would like this topic to get more attention, I would like if everyone who cares about the future of poker to write down emails to the chico representatives using the following emails and maybe leave a link to this topic.
poker@sportsbetting.ag
poker@BetOnline.ag
support@tigergaming.com
Heads-up sit&goes, next spin&goes soon 6 max and after 9 max will be full of bots. It's just depressing how regs take little to no action to fight it, to put pressure on sites, to spam them and to make this information accessible to public.
I have no idea where the info comes that Chico is #2 most secure poker site, to me, Chico/WPN/888 are bot's paradise.

Its funny how they play in day/night shifts and URMOMHOTBRA,GaborsPekPek plays more reg speeds and that other more turbos.Also played same kind of mtt once and lowest sng once.Same range of stakes as well.It is really sad and ridiculous to see attitude of site to this.They are taking huge money from players.

OP is 100% spot on with his observations. I just chose to quit the games rather than fight these bots in the 30-60s.

I remember distinctly calling them out for being bots and then a few of them actually changed their play a bit mid-game (no longer delaying their timing, etc.)

Another day, another bot spotted on chico, his nikname is VardisKutya, the guy plays everything starting from 15$ up to 100$, plays almost every day, with this graffic
https://www.sharkscope.com/#Player-S...rs/VardisKutya

itm 50.9, and he plays a lot, https://prnt.sc/okitb5

One of my collegues from another poker forum (gipsyteam), created this topic to expose a very large network of bots that covers a lot of rooms in online poker today. Those bots play different disciplines and as I already said, it's a huge network, with a lot of ex-bot creators as employees. I leave the link bellow:
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...tfarm-1748840/

+1 . It is really really bad. A couple are stealing nice chunks of money every single week through promos.

What a shame. Because Chico could be one of the best networks. If they put in more of an effort, striving for that!

Tried to create a topic about bots on chico in the "internet poker" thread, and it was deleted right the way. I find it very odd that 2+2 admins are shilling Chico network putting at risk players to play against bot instead of warning them. Unbelivible.

Can confirm all of the above about these bots, chico doesn't care, their rewards system/leaderboard even encourages and pays 2000$/week extra, as if these bots wouldn't be already killing the site and the game integrity. ACR is no different, bots from all over the place are murdering the games there, and american regulars have never heard of bots/have no idea how they work, they don't even realise how raped they get and the money that should stay in the economy and ecosystem get sucked out. Have solid intel that a good bot makes 600k$ a year!

Hello,

I am wanting to open such a thread for a while but you moved faster and i rather post here then opening a new one.
I am also a HU regular on Chico network and I am really tired of warring such cheaters.
Seems once you kick some cheaters out more are coming in.
I am tired and pissed of this situation.
I can confirm chico doesn't care about this situation.

At least 7 regular players wrote to chico about this situation 5 months ago, we sent emails to all adresses you mentioned in your post. I didn't get even an automatic reply and i raked on chico over the years at least 100k$ . DISGUSTING!
Last two months i spent a lot of time chatting with chico and telling them about every new bot once it appeared.
I also told them on chat we have some proofs that might help them in investigation if there is an investigation and i put a small part on chat. All i asked was somebody from the relative department to send me an email and I will put all proofes in reply. Ofcourse, not a surprise, nobody contacted me.
Only when I told chico other regulars and me are prepearing a 2+2 thread they told me probably the same lie they told you.
All these new bots URMOMHOTBRA, OOORLY?, ORBANVITYA88, GaborsPekPek, KawhileNewKing, VardisKutya where brought in by a cheating software dealer that is also playing on chico as VBV1990. He was currr14 on pokerstars or something like that and ofcourse he was banned long time ago there.
Maybe in regular and turbo games recreational player still have a chance versus these cheaters but in hyper games they have no chance on medium term. A good example is optimus23prime that made over $50000 on Chico only this year. That's why hyper games on chico are FULL of cheaters for longer time.
I hope more regular players will join this thread and maybe together we'll make networks to start a war versus these CHEATERS for real and not only claiming this when we threat them posting about this situation in poker community.

I am not familiar with this forum but if you guys consider it's better to open such a tread in another section for higher exposure let's do it till 2+2 will stop deleting it!

It wasn't deleted. It was moved to the BetOnline sponsored forum. I think it will be just as effective, if not more, to warn players looking to play there in the sponsored forum.

I do feel like the sponsored forum could use a thread specifically dedicated to bot issues, instead of merging the discussion into existing threads. That's not my call though. You'd have to ask the mods, but it might be that the representative from the network has a final say in the decisions for their sponsored forum, which they pay for.

I've been warning players about the risk of playing against bots on the Chico Network for over 2 years. While I'm only familiar with the bots that play cash games, it doesn't surprise me in the least that there's a bot problem in the SNGs too. I would think creating a profitable bot for short-stack play would be much easier than 100bb+ games.

I have posted now about this problem on a thread created by BOL.
I am curious how fast my posts there will be deleted.

I'm not sure why you think they would be deleted. I haven't seen that happening with bot related posts in that forum. I have made several of my own there.

The representative even quoted and responded to your post.

I reported this problem in february and i didn't get even an auto-reply to my emails .
You can read my first post here with more info about this matter.
I hope you understand that I have doubts something good will happen for real in order to ban cheaters and stop them joining on chico network.
I spent so many hours chatting with tigergaming, reporting these problems and every new bot that appeared and not a surprise, nothing happened.
My patience come to an end finally.
2 weeks ago when i told Tigergaming more regular players created a group and we are working on a 2+2 thread, it was the first time when they told me they are working on this and i should wait few months and see that cheaters will be banned.
REALLY?Wait a few months for that when many regular players reported the CHEATERS 6 MONTHS AGO???
I really have a lot of information about this problem and wasted a lot of time and energy to see the cheaters banned .

It's really hard to find the patience, energy and time to write these things so many times when everything is so obvious.
For example optimus23prime and more cheaters were banned from party on 28th of November. I played them on party and got some refund when they were banned. Same for the other regular players that played them and used only their brain for that.

Few days later he joins chico network, same nickname, same way to play gto game versus regular players and SAME SKYPE address. He had his sharkcope opted-in few weeks ago and he is just +50 000 $ this year on chico network . He probably wanted to show to the new bots he has money to rake versus them if they intend to take his hyper slots .
When things are so obvious and you waited more then 6 months chico to want and find a way to ban them, trust me you rather prefer to delete chico from pc then wait few more months as they adviced me...
Regards

bid23 I feel your pain. You are a responsable player and so am I. I remember 3 years ago playing against a group of bots on WPN (they aren't there anymore after the software change but they still operate on Ipoker). I remember writing a huge email of thousands of words with statistics from hm2/sharkscope niknames and all kind of proof. And you know what happend? right, nothing. WPN told me they will investigate and they can't share the results. In consequence nothing happend, and they've played there for 3 more years before the software changed and only 1 slot was allowed per sit&go limit. Right now chico does the same thing. You can't make them ban those players, unless you hurt their reputation by making it public!!! Most bots are well protected, playing from russian affilates on sites with huge rakeback (like pokerking). And unless all players unite and put some efforts, this is going to be a short life for online poker!

and I know that there are plenty of russian and east european players that will like to fight those bots too! russian player isn't automatically a bot, but for what is true, most bots are east european