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09-23-2014 , 09:22 PM

Ellzebub

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 207

Readless 4 hands in to the match. Is this a call?

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Poker Stars, $28.78 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30977711

SB: 1,540 (77 bb)
Hero (BB): 1,460 (73 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 6

SB raises to 49, Hero calls 29

Flop: (98) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets 49, Hero raises to 150, SB calls 101

Turn: (398) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets 290, SB raises to 1,341 and is all-in

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09-24-2014 , 06:41 AM

degi11

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 120

i think its a fold theres no worse hand what he could do with it and its without reads

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09-24-2014 , 07:11 AM

madchipmonk7

enthusiast

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 70

Call every time. He prbl never has a straight. And why would he c/r jam any sets or 2 pair? Dosent make sense, at 30s i assume he is at least a little bit decent thinking, and he looses a **** load of value. My guess is that he is on a draw. Maybe a combo draw. K7 w fd. A3 w fd etc. I call it off here.

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09-24-2014 , 08:59 AM

Armed_Robbery

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Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 334

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Originally Posted by degi11

i think its a fold theres no worse hand what he could do with it and its without reads

he could assume hero had a draw on the flop, which most likely improved in some way (pair+FD/pair+SD/FD+SD). with that reasoning he could try to "protect" with an A high hand.

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09-24-2014 , 11:32 AM

watergun7

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,796

I don't think we are ahead of his range tbh, although we have to call given how we played the hand (and it's prob good call given pot odds). He can easily shove a straight or better 2p or set ott to protect from draws given the obvious straight draw and 2 flushdraws on board.

Obv K7cc is very much in his range, but if he shoved Axdd then he is pretty bad.

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09-27-2014 , 11:32 AM

Ellzebub

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 207

Thanks everyone.

Ive noticed villains show up with A7/AT type hands and strong double draws in this spot, as well as stronger 2 pairs. Which lead me to ask the question. I just cant work out what the average villain is gonna have the higher % of the time readless. The only way I can think to figure it out is to query my database but unfortunately Ive only got 2500 games in mine at the minute so I cant see it being a big enough sample to give accurate results.

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09-30-2014 , 02:11 AM

7betshove

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Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 171

folding cant be bad imo.

this is one of those spots in which you either get a flip or so, or you are crushed. id be probably more inclined to a fold tbh, or depending if he is a reg/decent id call, and if he is a fish/unknown id fold and wait for a better spot.

i dont see a diamond fd gii here, maybe a str8 + pair or some monster draw.

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09-30-2014 , 11:21 AM

spartan1

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Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 761

I think it's a call to, tpgk with a turned fd would play it like this you block most sets yadda yadda....

However I think because this decision is really rare that it's probably not that big a deal in the long run, calling or folding in this spot is meh either way, next hand pls.

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10-01-2014 , 01:35 PM

Ellzebub

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Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 207

Thanks all

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