8k wouldn't come close to covering the money he has borrowed.

I'm assuming the 8k he was playing with wasn't his last pennis though

He wouldnt be the first one who starts avoiding 2+2 thinking to himself "i´m gonna grind myself out of this"

I really don't know if I'm supposed to update the thread or not as I'm not involved but I found that in the highstakes thread:

I've read tonnes of articles / posts about players chasing someone who owes them money where an arrangement has gone 'wrong'

Is there no way that 2+2 could set up a message board whereby players can publicise any requests for funding from another player? Therefore, in relation to this situation, OP would have been alerted to the fact that Berndsen12 already owed 2 other players.

Just a thought.

im impressed no one is talking about this. Specially after seeing he was 100kup and kept playing and... question is, did he pay back?

yeah im shocked too

He owes a total of over 100k to various people.

He's likely waiting until he gets it all to send back. And while I have no involvement in his debts, I think that's a less than best way to do this. Paying back a lot more of the chunks and grinding lower and in a less risky way is likely a better path both for B12's profit motives and the people he owes.

Or not

100k is a lot of money for a guy whose graph is plummeting to earth faster than Felix Baumgartner. How do these deals work, is he borrowing against some kind of equity or does he just "promise" to pay back and people ship him the cash and trust him on his name??

dink and dunk, hey lend me 5k hey lend me 20k hey lend me 10k.

Slightly off topic and don't mean to be rude, but how old is Harthor?

I just saw Plauzee's photo of him and he looks about 12...

He owes over 100k and only one person spoke out in this thread. I guess everyone is scared that if they say anything they will not get it back.

because obv that photo is when he was young, afaik

What's the purpose of this thread? Don't lend B12 any money right now, okay, what else? Nothing. I would be extremely shocked if he turns out to be a scammer. Posting here won't change anything...it's most likely he's figuring out his plan on how to take care of this situation in his own way, you won't sway him..

I'd imagine Harthor wanted to let others know so they don't lend him money.

Threads often do sway people, though usually with more pressure than this one.

In any case, the first sentence is my guess on the primary reason the thread was posted.

Figuring out his plan while winning and losing 100k in one day hmmm...

Looks like he doesn't really care. By now, he shoul've already made at least some statement. It's been a while since those "complications" began.

Im bumping this to c if he paid u back harthor? As hes sitting with about 10k worth of buyins across sites.

he's sitting the 1ks right now...

yea, 4 tabling Ike

Mbn

probably just paid back and back to grinding, who knows..sadly no one updates this to change our mind, which is not good for Bern in case he paid, but as he doesnt even bother to do by himself then maybe he didnt, haha fk knows

He probably just doesnt care, actually nobody involved other than harthor really seems to care, so i guess until someone really decides to say something there isnt really much to talk about, id still like to see this thread in the first pages just so that people are aware of thr situation.

Other people care, but I mean, what are they going to do? It's public, people know not to lend him money, he has a roll he's not paying people back with, instead degenning it up playing too high vs too good of players in hopes of winning it all back.

Not much more to say and no reason for other people he owes to post or do anything yet except hope he runs like god and doesn't decide to stiff them.

That sounds bleak, but it sounds like the guys owed money are taking the right line so far.

I don't care who he owes money to, but it makes a huge difference whether you owe money to someone who's willing to wait for it or if you told them you'd pay back on the next day. It's much worse when instead of just one guy there are a lot of them.

If what you say is true, then what he's doing is pretty much stealing money, it's not just a respected reg owing a lot of money and nobody caring because they know he's going to pay it and they don't mind waiting. Sounds like they're just not saying anything because then they might have a better chance to see their money again.

I get that the people involved have the right to decide how they're going to proceed, if they think changing this thread to "<real name> scammed different people for 100k" will lower their chance of getting their money back then that's their decision of course. I guess given the circumstances that might even be true, doesn't make him less of a scammer on the other hand.

PS: if all the assumptions above are true then I guess Harthor deserves a hell lot of respect for putting this thread up and potentially risking his chances of getting his money back. Of course he's just informing people about the situation and telling us that he's not ok with it, even though he seems sure he's getting his money back.