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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
He seems to be even more shady than you had just mentioned. He did the same to us, but he did it under the Stars name Evamannn.
At this point, it appears there *may* be two Ben Lee's who are both extremely shady and scamming backers from HUSNG's at the same time... :-/
Their Ben Lee is supposedly a student. Ours claims to be a pilot married to a pastor.
Despite the fact that there may be two different Ben Lee's, our Ben Lee definitely was very shady.
Here is the breakdown with our guy:
- He started played with us on Nov 13. He was given $900.
- On Nov 24 and Nov 26 he was given reloads for $900 each. That makes his total amount $2,700.
- He was staked for $30 Hypers but on Nov 29th he played 4 $100 hypers and $100 MTT's. He lost around $350 in those games. He didn't grind any more after that.
- We tried to reach him on skype for a couple of days and when we couldn't reach him, we emailed him on Dec 3rd asking him about the games he wasn't supposed to have played and why he hadn't grinded since then.
He emailed us:
Hi.
I'm having a big problem. About a week ago. I received news that Singapore would be looking to ban online gambling, specifically poker sites. I heard from my sources that it would be about a week before anything would be confirmed. I thought it would be no big deal so didn't let you guys know as I didn't want to lose my Staking deal.
I haven't played for a couple of days, and now I am unable to login to my stars account. It simply just doesn't connect. Same for ftp or any poker site. My Neteller account is also under review due to the funds used for gambling. Access to pokerstars.com is blocked under the Singapore government act and I'm unable to access any client. Can you please advise?
http://www.cardplayer.com/poker-news...n-online-poker
Regards,
Ben
- We again tried to reach him on skype and when we couldn't, emailed him back and asked to set up a specific time to talk on skype.
- There were two other big issues up to this point. #1. In the email to us, he didn't mention that he had also cashed out our money to his Neteller account and that his Neteller account had since been suspended because supposedly someone was trying to hack him.
- #2. On Dec 1st, he had emailed us to let us know when he would be available for coaching the following week. In that email he didn't mention anything about Singapore being banned, or that he had cashed out our money from Neteller, even though those had both happened 3 days prior.
- We were finally able to have a conversation with him on December 11th as that was the first time he was available. (At this point, he still hadn't told us that he had cashed out our money or that it was lost on Neteller).
- He then told us that he had cashed out our funds to Neteller because he was nervous it would be stuck on Stars when Singapore was banned. Also, someone had hacked into his Neteller account and stole our money. When he called Neteller to tell them, they had suspended his account.
- We called him on his phone number to discuss working out a payment plan for the money he owed us. After agreeing to make payments to work off the money owed, he hung up out of the blue and then he didn't answer our calls back.
- He replied to an Email a day later and among other excuses said:
I am unable to pay back anything now, as I do not know whether I will be getting back my money from Neteller. I am unable to pay you because my wife feels that it is not fair to me that my poker sites have been disabled, and that I am unable to access anything, and that my neteller account was frauded and suspended, and now I have to pay back my debt out of my own pocket.
- We then set up another skype conversation with him. In that conversation he agreed that he would call Neteller each day and keep us updated about the funds from Neteller. If Neteller would not unban his account we would discuss how he would pay back the money he cashed out on his own. Once we had that first $1,500 paid back, we would discuss the other $1,200 and how to move forward. We left that conversation agreeing to update us daily.
- The next morning he blocked all of our staking skype accounts as contacts. He didn't answer any phone calls or return our email.
- After this thread was posted, he then re-added us on skype and contacted us via email and told us that Neteller had unblocked his account and he sent us $1,450~.
- We are now in discussions to have him pay back the remaining balance he owes, but it doesn't seem to be going well.
On top of the many *super* shady spots in this story, he also denied ever blocking us on skype... I guess it did it on its own? And he was also caught on more than one occasion mixing up his story about when he was out of town.
I think that covers almost everything.