skweek, the general level on ipoker is somewhere between terrible and abysmal. once you hit $105 turbos you will find a few regs who are decent, and after a few days of them playing you at every single possibility, they will avoid you if you can beat them. Same with $210's, just replace "decent" with "actually rather good"

(funnily enough, today is an exception to that rule ... i find myself playing loads of more or less winning players, who obviously have no desire to game select whatsoever)

reg at 105$ is my goal, already at 20/30$, i trash talk a lot of regulars who come to play me(i sit in first always), and then most of them are scared to hear: "do you feel my power?(tony g)" and just don't play me.

@skates no super turbo on stars?

cool ipoker is maybe a golden mine

stay


away

from me.

MY MINE!

Played some HU cash, and was fairly decently owned at NL50 by one player. The money was not the problem, as I got lucky in one spot and picked up a bit pot, but I felt like I was easily thrown around by this guy. I was happy enough to leave, but didn't feel too tilty, so stayed around to see if I could pick some things up about the HU cash games without spending a huge amount of money.

I picked up these few things he was doing, and I guess I'd like people to comment on these. Are they signs of a good player/difficult to exploit? Any tips on how to play, or whether any of these plays are risky long term?

1. After getting called PF (so he's IP), bet pot on flop and turn. In terms of BB's, it was 3 for the pre flop, 6 for the flop, 18 for the turn. All up spending 27BB's, to make 18 for each time I'd float the flop and fold the turn (which was too often due to me running terrible in these situations and floating a bit too much). In any case, you would have to get played back at quite often for this to not be profitable from what I can tell, I'd like to hear what others think. This was done frequently.
2. Calling 3 bets IP, then calling cbets, PSB on turn or river when I didn't continue, committing to the pot. Obviously when I didn't cbet he'd try to take it away a lot too. This was done less frequently, but he'd basically never float a cbet without trying for the steal on the turn or river.
3. Calling a raise OOP, call cbet, bet pot on river. This one wasn't quite so bad (shows it's obviously harder to make moves OOP), but then he wasn't calling as much pre flop so it didn't come up as much. I guess to counter this I have to double barrell more.
4. 3 betting PF OOP, betting pot on flop and turn. His double barrells were again hard to defend against even IP, because each move you make is risking at least 60BB's.

I guess this all sounds pretty standard, but there are some things, like the pot sized bets that I don't do. I also ran pretty bad, so I never had any good hands to feed off the aggression.

HU Cash games are evil, the only people who win money is the rake. Go rake!

Many non-HU STT multitablers use scrips (or whatever it is called) to help them open and close tables.

I could use a script where I could program the desirable buy-ins on several different sites, and then with a click of a button or something it would seat me on all these buy-ins (except those where there already is a player seated). And when someone joins me on one of these tables, I immediately leave the other tables. Further, if the tables I didn´t join due to a player already sitting there fills up, and a new table becomes available before someone joins me on another table, the script seats me at this table too.

Is there such a script?
Can such a script relatively easily be made?
Can a script only be used for 1 site?

For the record, the reason I don´t want the script to seat me at tables where there already is a player is that I would manually look for registered "fish" before turning to the script.

at what point does HU cash become better than SNG rakewise or any other wise

I heard NL200 but they are pretty different games so I don't rly like this sort of comparisons. (If u are crushing 200$ BI HUSNGs you are not necessarily winning at 200NL imo)

if you are crushing $220 husng that may beat 200 NL because if you learned on SNG you will be MUCH better at those than cash. It pays to make the switch (I would assume as I never have actually switched) if you want to get really rich from this, as the top cash players out earn the top SNG players.

qft ...

as soon as i have an extra 4 months expenses put aside, i shall be extensively trying 200nl, and taking it from there. $210 sng's are basically the max you can go for regular action on the sng front

If you play he major sites you can go a lot further. In June I ran so so hot, but I also played a bunch of non nose bleed games, and didn't play the most games I have in a month and I put up a figure month. That said, on one on scope is at 400k yet for the year and we all know how quickly some cash players can make that.

arent the major sites also significantly tougher than stuff like ipoker?

Seat 4: x_Micky08 ($1,560 in chips)
Seat 9: mulibuangi ($1,440 in chips)

ANTES/BLINDS
x_Micky08 posts blind ($10), mulibuangi posts blind ($20).

Deal to x_Micky08 89

PRE-FLOP
x_Micky08 bets $30, mulibuangi calls $20.

FLOP [board cards: J,T,7 ]
mulibuangi checks, x_Micky08 checks.

TURN [board cards: J,T,7,4 ]
mulibuangi checks, x_Micky08 bets $50, mulibuangi calls $50.

RIVER [board cards: J,T,7,4,Q ]
mulibuangi bets $130, x_Micky08 ???

2nd hand of the match. No reads. $50 HUSNG. Villain is a losing player.

instacall, no way ur folding for that much. i cant see any point in raising either, tho

other than that, WHY THE HELL AREN'T YOU BETTING THE FLOP? =)

likely but I haven't played minor sites so I don't know.

I know i'm not folding, just wondering should I raise or not. Guess I just wanted to keep him in on the flop but probably a big mistake not c-betting when flopping the nuts

I'd consider this regular action:

BCM11 566 $59.38 $596 11% $33,610 PokerStars <1Mths E<=2 G=H NoLim

I've been having some fun with SNG's this week and i was wondering what the benefits are of the 4ppl SNG's? Seems to me you have to win two times to get a certain amount, same as when you play two seperately.

@pushing22 I read in NVG about a video vs. Genius28 that you mentioned in the livb thread, which site will that be on.

The fee is the same as for STTs, and as MTTs last longer, it is easier to beat the fee.

It is unclear exactly at what point CASH becomes more profitable than SNGs, but one thing people perhaps could clear up for me is:

Are the players at $X CASH just as good/bad as the players at $X SNGs?

If not, how many levels do you have to move up or down from $X to find $X CASH with equally skilled/unskilled players as you find on $X SNGs?

I am not asking for profitability here, just quality of the opponents.

Sorry for the bump, although this thread deserves it.

I'm curious what volume of sng's the more "pro" players put in a day(and how many tables) on average. I play about 20 a day with one /two tables and feel like it's a very low volume.

800 to 1200 games per month.

How do you play Q10os from the button?

Here is the situation..... It's late in a tournament. You are a decent, consistent, winning player. Your opponent is terrible, awful, barely knows how to play. The stakes are huge(for you), and you have a huge edge on this guy. You have a chip lead 1700 to 1300 and the blinds are 40-80.

Villain has been playing unpredictably.


How much do you bet on your Q10os with position?

minraise

depends what "unpredictably" means... like hyper-aggressive and erratic betting? open limp almost 100% on the button probably. if it's still on the passive size, yea minraise.