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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
If you're raising 22 OOP to a limp as a standard play, you're going to be in a tremendous amount of tough postflop spots. The reason is because the pot is raised, so you already have an interest in the pot, you are also the aggressor, so it's usually a good idea to fire at a lot of these flops. The problem is that since you'll often be firing at these flops, you'll get called sometimes and then you're in an even bigger pot OOP with a very weak hand.
I agree that if our c-bet gets called, we can give up easily. However, given that most villains are too loose pre- and too tight post-, and that a limp/calling range tends not to be on the weaker side, isn't the villain more likely to be the player playing an oversized pot with a marginal hand?
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Originally Posted by ChicagoRy
When a player limps and you check 22, you can take a low risk stab at the pot for fold equity, or play your hand accordingly if you flop a set. You can also check/fold on terrible boards for your hand that hit your opponent's limp range pretty well, so it's not nearly as tough in my mind to check it back than to raise it.
If we're stabbing for FE, couldn't we do this with any hand? Isn't a marginal, yet made hand, like 22 the kind we want to get to a cheaper showdown with if we're not playing aggressively from the start?