Villain min C-bet bet 1/3 and ch beh with Q9 op 22A9Q
I lost my stack on K25 rb when villain cr 55 80=>200 and bet shoved 88
I doubled up when villain limp-called K3s 6 bb deep (he limpfolded the hand before 5 bb deep lol)

What should my plan be for this flop? I was planning to C-bet and check it out when villain called and to bet-call if villain would shove (or shove over his raise if he didn't shove). Are those lines optimal or is a bet-fold or a check behind on the flop better?


Full Tilt Poker $22 + $1 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t2330 46.60 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t670 13.40 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with 5 Q
Hero raises to t100, BB calls t50

Flop: (t200) 4 6 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t100, BB raises to t2230 all in, Hero calls t470 all in

is it just me or do the turbo sng's on FTP finish faster usually than stars?

Yes they do, the blindstructure in ft turbos is faster than the blindstructure in stars turbos.

the blind structure is faster but they have finer grained levels. like 40/80

It is completely normal running a ton of buy-ins under EV in HUSNGs, right?

If you're flat broke and have no chance of re-depositing, I'd recommend grinding 2nl and 5nl to build up your BR a bit. It's so so so easy to crush those games with no risk of ruin whatsoever. On the other hand, it's very easy to lose a bunch of 60/40's and drop a bunch of buyins and go nuts playing HU sng if you aren't properly rolled.

Realistically 35 buyins should be plenty to play the 2's, but if busting out = no more pokers, then I'd recommend like 50 buyins to be comfortable. But I'm very prone to tilt when downswinging and under-rolled and am a BR nit anyways, so your mileage may vary.

3bet turn, you can't afford to give him a free card and a lot of rivers kill action. As played ship it in

I prefer limping pre unless raising shows an immediate profit. As played I guess I b/f or check back depending on flow; we aren't in a great shape vs stuff like gutshot+2overs or OESD+1over, and we're losing to some combo draws, while we're drawing slim if he has 6x/A5-K5/44+/2p+

Okay thanks!

This might sound stupid but will volume make me improve my game?

I mean, like learning from mistakes etc?

Post some HH and reading the stickys might be a good idea aswell?

(i just printed out "spamz' first hand history review" just to study a little because i think its easier to read and focus from a paper , didnt expect it to be 47 PAGES lol)

ehm, no
flat turn, probably fold river or let youself time out if you can't fold topset like i do lol

Thx for reminding me that every single one of those took multiple hours to write hah

My game evolved quite a bit during the last year so may be some spots where I would disagree with myself now regarding which line is most ev+ though there shouldn't be any bs or bad advice in it obv.

You really fold river?
I would play it the same and call the river

depends if i'm playing my a-game or b-game
a-game = time myself out and fold
b-game = call and wish for lower set or queens up or smth

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players

Hero (BTN/SB): t1500 75 BBs
BB: t1500 75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 5 4
Hero calls t10, BB raises to t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) 4 6 6 (2 players)
BB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t200) 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t200) 3 (2 players)
BB bets t220

First hand. Would you have played it different? River?

I'd probably reraise flop to prevent 2 overcards hitting and to see where you're at. Probably fold river without reads (I think).



Anyway here's my hand in question. Second hand:
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Hero (BTN/SB): t2960 74 BBs
BB: t3040 76 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with A 8
Hero raises to t120, BB calls t80

Flop: (t240) 3 7 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB calls t150

Turn: (t540) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t540) 4 (2 players)
BB bets t400, Hero folds

That's a bad reason to raise. If we are raising its to get value from overcards and for protection. Raising to see where you are at is spewy because you are generally folding out the hands you already beat and getting called by those that are ahead of you.



I'd bet turn, 380 or so (unsure on good sizing). I'm folding to a turn raise or river barrel if I've bet turn. They shouldn't be floating OOP with a lot of QX except for maybe AQ / KQ which is a good chance they'd 3B pre. If they have it then they will make it known anyway.

As played I call river. There are a lot of "random overs" that didn't get there. Many villians will float flop OOP and then fire river if turn checks through a whole bunch.

I'm pretty new, so i've probably got the wrong definition of "protection". But isn't my suggestion of "preventing overcards hitting" the same as "protection"?
Also, if we're "getting value from overcards", what are we getting protection from? (this is probably a definition problem again on my part though).


Okay, fair enough. Thanks.

It's essentially the same thing. You're getting value from worse hands that may call and if you just check they get to draw free against you so you haven't done anything to protect the value of your hand.

Just bought it up because you will see people see "raise to see where I'm at" because they don't know how to play their hand. Like raising middle pair to "see where they're at" whereas realistically you don't "gain" any information after your raise and their call except their range is stronger and more likely to be ahead of you.

Good choice, I think it's one of the best material to find here on 2+2 for husng's. I've read them all on the airplane when I went on vacation

Why would you prefer limping?

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players

Hero (BB): t1660 55.33 BBs
BTN/SB: t1340 44.67 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with A 2
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) 8 7 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t80, BTN/SB raises to t240

He was tight the first hands but the last 7 hands he had been very aggressive. Doing moves like this very often.

Just fold, you have a pair of 2's

Hello, what is good ROI nowadays for a good player at 30s and 50s regular speed (i play on FTP)?

Everything above 5 is decent and over 10 is good imo.

Hand above: yeah, fold. Even if he does this with pure air he still has 2 overcards. I'm not sure if I like the donk too. Especially if he was tight at first. 7 hand is a very small ss, he very well might have had something in all of those hans.

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
BB: t1670 83.50 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1330 66.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 7
Hero calls t10, BB checks

Flop: (t40) 3 8 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t25, BB calls t25

Turn: (t90) T (2 players)
BB bets t40, Hero calls t40

River: (t170) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80



No real reads, just that he is aggressive pre.

I bet river because: I might fold out a better hand since my bet looks like a value bet, I might get value from a pair that's looking me up and I get information about his river play (very profitable for me if he folds to small river bets).

Comment my thinking. Did I miss anything? Anything wrong?

i dont know, so you bet and he folds....in my oppinion you still dont know if he is folding for small bets on the river cause the board is friggin scary (flush out there, 4 to a straight).
i would check behind , take my showdown value and see with what he is stabbing on turn so smallish. i mean if he reraises you on river you dont know anything.