I'm not sure but I'm just saying I've come across a lot of weak opponents recently and I figured that this is common at these stakes. As I said, it's a small sample size and I'm pretty confident in my ability to beat the game.

I have no proof of that though, naturally.

I generally play DS HU SNG's, so take this for what it's worth. I would put in a raise to $180 here, and fold to any 3 bet. If your raise is called you can comfortably check the river, or lay down to any big bet.

If you do want to call here, then you are pretty much committing to calling the river bet, if it comes. If BB cks river, I would check behind unless I improve.


First hand calling range on a shove. AA, KK, or AK, maybe QQ. As I said, I generally play DS, so I am **NOT** sitting down to roll the dice on one hand.

Check raising makes no sense to me on the turn. It's a pretty standard call spot there. His range is so wide that we need to call and re-evaluate on the river. If he checks the river, there's probably value from 8's and 9's.

It wouldn't be a check raise, we would be on the button. You made top pair, so why not raise. Flatting only makes your decision tougher on river, if he fires again. By raising the turn, you set up these posibilities.

A. He folds, you win.
B. He flat calls and likely checks the river. At which point you can check behind, unless you improve. If he does flat, and still fires out at any flush/straight river card, again, you can get away fairly cheap.
C. He reraises, and you muck it.

Raising for info is fishy play. Calling will get you value on the river for worse hands and lower the costs of losing to a better hand.

Can't speak for the 20's as I rarely play them at the moment but reg's at the 10's do have a lot of exploitable tendencies.


One thing that I like doing is 3 betting light and 3/4 pot donk betting the flop if called. Whilst this sort of play is awful against aggro fish who never fold in 3 bet pots,I find that a lot of reg's play waay to tight in 3 bet pots. This can also tilt them and may cause them to stack off with top pair in spots where they otherwise wouldn't.Eg-they call your 3bet with q.10, flop comes 10,8,2 they stack off against your jacks in a spot where usually they would't:
A-Call your 3 bet.
B-Stack off with top pair.

Also, In your K.10 example I would probably call. It depends on his button raise and general aggression but he can show up with weak Kings, flush draws and straight draws a lot.

Can someone comment on my 3bet calling ranges when deep?

Against TAG players that seem to 3bet a small range like 5-8%:

I flat with 78s+, 22-TT, AT, AJ, KT, KJ, QT, QJ

Against LAGs that 3bet somewhat light (say 10-15%):

I flat with 45s+, 22-88, J9s, Q9s, K8s, QJ, QT, KT, KJ, A7-A9


Sometimes I'm not sure what to do with A7 and below, or what the minimum SC I should call is. Also, should I consider flatting with non-suited connectors?

I know that so much is villain dependent, but I'm thinking in default range terms when deep against someone with just enough reads to classify them as some general type of player.

And what do you do against a reg who do that ? So 3 bet pf and then donk 3/4pot ?

hi,
that will be my only post about bankroll, thats really annoying for everyone i know but thats really important for me at the moment.
i'm a winning player playing sng full ring mid stakes, i start playing snghu for few weeks and its going fine.right now i have 1400$ of bankroll but i dont want to be broke. i have some money behind but no more job. i work on my play really hard at least 2-3 hours per day and i play around 8 hours a day.i really need to win money every month. my questions are:
is it good to multi 4-5 sng full ring 20-30$ (i dont really need to be focus on the sngfr, i used to multi 25 tables) and one husng (really dont know the best buy-in?)
or only one husng buy in higher?
if i only play husng what buy in?

Longest BE stretch a 55% winner can have? and 60%?

Is it true $100+ reg speeds are dead?

Would i make more hourly by switching to hu cash when i get there?

No Limit Holdem Tournament
PokerStars
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com
$10.00+$0.50

Stacks:
Hero (1,500)
BB (1,500)

Blinds: 10/20

Pre-Flop: (30, 2 players) Hero is SB J K
Hero raises to 60, BB calls 40

Flop: 2 J 2 (120, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 80, BB calls 80

Turn: 4 (280, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: 5 (280, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

(2nd hand so no reads)
Is it worth betting turn or river? Or too thin?

Definitely. Fish will float you with Ax, Kx, weaker Jx, lower pocket pairs and just random garbage. I would bet t180 on turn and if he calls and checks this river I would fire a half pot 3rd barrel.

Wouldn't that turn bet be more of a bluff than for value? Plus I would have thought that if he called the turn then I'm probably well behind, and checking back the turn would be the only sensible option.

If the river had been more of a blank I'd have bet it then..

Turn bet is for value. I dont see any point of a 3rd barrel on this river though. 5h competes all possible draws. Id check it back. Ax or Kx wont call this bet and better hands will c/raise.

You have a good hand and you should bet for value early on against an unknown at 10's. Like I said he will float wide and even if he has 55 or J9 he is still calling that turn because the board hasn't changed much. There shouldn't be lots of 2x hands in his range.

River actually is a blank, are u afraid of backdoor flush/straight? If he would hit he would almost surely bet himself on the river after you shut down on turn.

a blank? If 5h is a blank here, then I can't think of a card that isn't a blank... (meaning, it doesn't look very blank to me!)

I'm just trying to say that there are only a few overcards I don't wish to see with your hand - all Qx and Ax. Everything else I'm barreling.

You should be playing 30$ or 50$ if you have a good roi ,and i think that except if you are crushing the game you should play just one husng for the long term your hourly will be better

Effective stacks are 26bb. Villain is minraising 71% of buttons. If he is calling a shove with 14% range we could profitably 3betshove every hand (EV is +2 chips with 27o and 23o).

Even tried putting it in SNG Wizard:

(and obv same results using ICM mode bc it's HU and we don't need ICM)


I realize that if we are 3betshoving like crazy, villain will:
a) start minraising less buttons
b) calling wider
-> 3betshoving this wide is super exploitable (and even droolers should be able to exploit it pretty well) so we should fold the least +EV part of our shoving range for balance. For example if we've made two 3betshoves very early on the match and villain is adjusting by only opening 60% and calling 24% our future 3bet bluffshove's EV significantly drops (~80cEV with some often dominated bluffhands) meaning our previous two or three 20cEV bluffs cost us a 80cEV bluffing equity.

...but other than that, is my math right?



edit:
Is there an easy way to make a rough equilibrium to figure out what kind of 3bet shoving range we should have 20-25bb deep against certain diffent button minraising ranges? I realize that certain hands might be +EV to call the minraise (or 3bet smaller) making it close to impossible to make an exact simulation of the situation but would be really nice to have some kind of ballpark numbers. Am I right assuming that even the winning midstakes regs are generally 3betting way less than would be optimal?

If anyone remembers the old Fulltilt superturbos where you started with 10BB, they were pretty much ignored by all regs since they were unbeatable just because of the rake.

My question is that can it be beaten at a 25+0.15 level? Thats 0.6% rake which seems to be very low and by playing unexploitably (ex. Nash) it seems like money could be made here if Im not missing something. Obv most of your opponents at this level are going to be total tards (limping as low as 4-5 BB's on button, very rarely pushing etc.) The edges might be small, and the swings are going to be wild, but would they be worth your time?

what kind 3 bet preflop range u would put on if villains is betting over 20% and he seems to be regular, don't call much oop. What about 15%?? would u put villain will polarized range or merge range?? what's your 4 betting or smooth call range against them (DEEP STACK)

meteoric

that hand tilts me

Ok, so...there are fish in the 20's afterall.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 21 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 handed) - PokerStars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com

SB (t1158)
Hero (BB) (t1842)

Hero's M: 40.93

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 8
SB bets t60, Hero calls t30

Flop: (t120) A, 2, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t65, SB raises to t180, Hero calls t115

Turn: (t480) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t210, Hero calls t210

River: (t900) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t300, Hero calls t300

Total pot: t1500

Results:
SB had 3, J (two pair, threes and twos).
Hero had A, 8 (two pair, Aces and twos).
Outcome: Hero won t1500



My question is about range, and this hand in particular.

This is a call-down I've been making more and more against breakeven and losing fish. We are being aggressive and donking and taking away pots. Then Villian goes into his hole and folds six hands straight pre. Then suddenly opens strong. From my experience, this is sometimes ax, but equally its something pretty, like j-10s, kq, kj, j9s, sc's or whatever. Villian just wants our respect, and wants to win a pot. Sometimes, like I said, this is a better ax and I am owned, but villian's range here is much broader, I think, even after 6 or 7 folds.

Just wondering if you think its ok given reads, or am I playing too much of a guessing game with tpmk.

can anyone use hand converter now?? it is not working now...