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01-06-2011 , 06:00 AM
up 7-1!!!

variance!!!!

does not compute
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01-06-2011 , 06:03 AM
you think it should be 8-0?
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01-06-2011 , 09:14 AM
How are those HUSNG tourneys? I played the 32man a week ago, only finished 3rd, which was disappointing since 1st and 2nd were so much more in prize. Any reasons to do those other than boredom?
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01-06-2011 , 11:16 AM
many mtt players as opponents and thats prolly the only reason
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01-06-2011 , 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DaLimit
How are those HUSNG tourneys? I played the 32man a week ago, only finished 3rd, which was disappointing since 1st and 2nd were so much more in prize. Any reasons to do those other than boredom?
If you're planning on grinding for a long time, you can put them in the mix. They're very +EV but take a very long time indeed.
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01-06-2011 , 03:24 PM
I came across this while looking through different threads and I couldn't figure out if this was some kind of joke or if it's real?
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01-06-2011 , 03:35 PM
HEM really pissing me off with its red line e/v. i get it in good and get outdrawn an it still goes the feck downward.......along with the bankroll. it tilts me more than losing the match. does this piss anyone else off or am i that easily tilted!
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01-06-2011 , 04:22 PM
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.25 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) -

SB (t1440)
Hero (BB) (t1560)

Hero's M: 52.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, 5
SB bets t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) K, 6, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t240) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t120, Hero raises to t380, SB calls t260

Had the feeling that I played this hand horrible. This is the 11th hand, I have been aggressive and taken down 7 out of 10 hands before. Thought's on hand? Plan for river? Range?
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01-07-2011 , 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by hungover
HEM really pissing me off with its red line e/v. i get it in good and get outdrawn an it still goes the feck downward.......along with the bankroll. it tilts me more than losing the match. does this piss anyone else off or am i that easily tilted!
Just click it off
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01-07-2011 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Gomery
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.25 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) -

SB (t1440)
Hero (BB) (t1560)

Hero's M: 52.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, 5
SB bets t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) K, 6, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t240) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t120, Hero raises to t380, SB calls t260

Had the feeling that I played this hand horrible. This is the 11th hand, I have been aggressive and taken down 7 out of 10 hands before. Thought's on hand? Plan for river? Range?
What are you trying to get value from on the turn by your check-raise? Also: the preflop is very loose. Kxo plays horrible OOP.
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01-07-2011 , 08:16 AM
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What are you trying to get value from on the turn by your check-raise? Also: the preflop is very loose. Kxo plays horrible OOP.
No idea actually. I had SD and TP. An AI raise would probably fold out everything I beat, but maybe this checkraise does as well? What would you have done on turn?
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01-07-2011 , 10:30 AM
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No idea actually. I had SD and TP. An AI raise would probably fold out everything I beat, but maybe this checkraise does as well? What would you have done on turn?
Flat turn. Pot control with your top pair weak kicker OOP. OESD on turn is just an added bonus for your hand but there is no need to get fancy by checkraising.
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01-07-2011 , 12:39 PM
Is chopping in 4mans allowed in pokerstars?
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01-07-2011 , 01:51 PM
If I've done my math right, here's what percentage of HUSNGs one would need to win, in order to reach certain ROIs.

ROI Winning Percentage
0% 55%
5% 57.75%
10% 60.50%
15% 63.25%
20% 66.00%
25% 68.75%
30% 71.50%


So, I'm wondering how one can ever make "big money" playing HUSNGs? Even with a win percentage of 71.50% playing $100 HUSNGs, that's only about $30 an hour (and that win percentage at that level seems unreachable). $30/hour is decent money, but it's far from killing it (so many jobs exist that pay over $30 an hour). So, I'm just wondering how anyone could conceivably get up to $50 or $100 an hour playing HUSNGs? Reminds me of that saying, "Poker is a hard way to make an easy living."
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01-07-2011 , 03:04 PM
^^ so you are playing one husng in an hour?
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01-07-2011 , 03:57 PM
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^^ so you are playing one husng in an hour?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought HUSNGs tend to take about one hour on average (or at least 45 minutes). I also thought that you need to get solid reads on your opponent, and generally pay a lot of attention because you're playing more hands -- thus, I thought playing 2+ tables drops your edge significantly.
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01-07-2011 , 04:08 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought HUSNGs tend to take about one hour on average (or at least 45 minutes). I also thought that you need to get solid reads on your opponent, and generally pay a lot of attention because you're playing more hands -- thus, I thought playing 2+ tables drops your edge significantly.
reg speeds rarely last more than 20 minutes. Most are 5 - 10 minutes.

of course if you add in the 40 minute wait if you're playing high stakes or on some tiny eurosite...
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01-07-2011 , 04:16 PM
Turbo husng on stars take about 10-11 minutes on average.I don't know how you come to the conclusion that they take about 45 minutes.Not many people would play them if they would last so long lol.Now,we can safely assume that there is a bigger chance i'll win the wsop main event next year crushing phil ivey heads up at the final table than for someone to achieve a 30% ROI at the 100$ level over a big sample size.I'm thinking a 5-7% ROI over a decent sample at the 100$ level 2tabling is pretty damn good and that will give you an hourly of about 50-70$ per hour.And yeah,playing two tables will definetely drop your edge but in most cases not significantly making your $/hour to be bigger than it would have been if you only played a single table.
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01-07-2011 , 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by YoungEcon
If I've done my math right, here's what percentage of HUSNGs one would need to win, in order to reach certain ROIs.

ROI Winning Percentage
0% 55%
5% 57.75%
10% 60.50%
15% 63.25%
20% 66.00%
25% 68.75%
30% 71.50%


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where are u playing rake is killing u if u have to have 55% to be break even
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01-07-2011 , 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Meteoric
reg speeds rarely last more than 20 minutes. Most are 5 - 10 minutes.
Okay, cool. And they still have those for $100+ buy-ins (without a very long wait)?

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Turbo husng on stars take about 10-11 minutes on average.I don't know how you come to the conclusion that they take about 45 minutes.Not many people would play them if they would last so long lol.Now,we can safely assume that there is a bigger chance i'll win the wsop main event next year crushing phil ivey heads up at the final table than for someone to achieve a 30% ROI at the 100$ level over a big sample size.I'm thinking a 5-7% ROI over a decent sample at the 100$ level 2tabling is pretty damn good and that will give you an hourly of about 50-70$ per hour.And yeah,playing two tables will definetely drop your edge but in most cases not significantly making your $/hour to be bigger than it would have been if you only played a single table.
Okay, I stand corrected. Am I correct to assume though, that getting up to the $100/hour mark is incredibly difficult?

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where are u playing rake is killing u if u have to have 55% to be break even
I used a 10% rake. I thought that was standard. Of course, this doesn't include rake back.
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01-07-2011 , 05:42 PM
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I used a 10% rake. I thought that was standard. Of course, this doesn't include rake back.
Rake is usually 5% or less in reg and turbos and 2.5% superturbos.
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01-07-2011 , 06:09 PM
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Rake is usually 5% or less in reg and turbos and 2.5% superturbos.
Thanks for setting me straight. I used to play HUSNGs a couple years ago, but it's been awhile, so I guess my memory was a bit off (in more ways than one).
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01-07-2011 , 07:19 PM
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No idea actually. I had SD and TP. An AI raise would probably fold out everything I beat, but maybe this checkraise does as well? What would you have done on turn?
If i check the turn it's to check-call. You said it yourselve: we're not really getting called by better. Unless villain is a supercallingstation he'll only call pair+oesd that is worse than we have and he often won't bet such a hand on the turn.

If you have a read that villain will check back almost anything except for hands that beat you, one can make a case for donking the turn though. But you can't go wrong with check-calling.
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01-08-2011 , 03:44 AM
Hello everyone, quick question:

Whats the average duration for a $11,50 turbo husng on PS?

Thanks
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01-08-2011 , 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 4to de Libra
Hello everyone, quick question:

Whats the average duration for a $11,50 turbo husng on PS?

Thanks
About 10 min.
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