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01-03-2011 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Meteoric
If I'm IP with a decent TPGK and my plan is to just value bet all three streets (assuming board doesn't get dangerous and villain just calls etc), but the villain donks pretty much what I'd bet, for instance;


Full Tilt Poker $10 + $0.50 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t1000 50 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t2000 100 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with K Q
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) T Q 2 (2 players)
BB bets t120, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t360) 9 (2 players)
BB bets t210, Hero calls t210

River: (t780) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t240, Hero calls t240

then should I be raising anywhere? It feels passive, but each street is getting the result I wanted (ie if he'd check-called every street, I'd be very happy with the hand I think)
weird spot, 9 and T are really ugly, btw I like it (I also play 10$ @ ftp, sn: Zeitgeist85) I would probably fold turn against some nitty reg
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01-03-2011 , 09:27 AM
Raise 415-call is almost always going to be +EV, crusg. A small raise might be better if villain has it in him to 3bet-fold that flop. Or will float overs and fold the turn.
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01-03-2011 , 10:32 AM
OK this is near certainly going to sound whiny but my confidence is becoming shot.

I stopped playing poker for a few weeks in October when uni got busy and started again in November. Since then I've had nothing but swings and seem to be well on my way to third 15BI down swing in as many months.

This is my graph from since I came back. Is this normal variance for micro / small stakes? All games between $30 and $10 level, mostly at $20s. All reg speeds on PS. I moved up / down when things were going good / bad.



This is my graph from 2011 so far. The peak in the middle of the graph was where I finished playing yesterday. Then I lost 8 straight and have been break even since for a few more matches.



I'm probably rolled for $30s but every time I try to play there I run bad and just lose my BR faster. Feels like doesn't matter how well I play by the river more often than not I'll have worse hand and similarly by end of a match. Irrelevant of how good my reads and plays are. The above matches I've felt like I've had an edge in most matches against mostly bad or break even opponents.

Main question is this. What have you found that works? Playing more, playing less and studying more, looking over big / all hands, doing HH reviews with people?

Thanks a lot, I just really want to get out of this breaking even rut where I get no where.
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01-03-2011 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RomforFD
kj 13bb I playing shove fold using nash.
miniraise folding is horrible, if I'm miniraising this shallow its to call shove preflop
Depends on vilain tendencies but if you are 13bb deep you can definitly limp or min raise KJ here and the only real mistake would be open folding , but vs a tight 3bettor you can definitly minraise>fold in that spot vs many opponent i d rather limp> call a shove than minraise>call with that hand
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01-03-2011 , 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by rocaerix
OK this is near certainly going to sound whiny but my confidence is becoming shot.

I stopped playing poker for a few weeks in October when uni got busy and started again in November. Since then I've had nothing but swings and seem to be well on my way to third 15BI down swing in as many months.

This is my graph from since I came back. Is this normal variance for micro / small stakes? All games between $30 and $10 level, mostly at $20s. All reg speeds on PS. I moved up / down when things were going good / bad.



This is my graph from 2011 so far. The peak in the middle of the graph was where I finished playing yesterday. Then I lost 8 straight and have been break even since for a few more matches.



I'm probably rolled for $30s but every time I try to play there I run bad and just lose my BR faster. Feels like doesn't matter how well I play by the river more often than not I'll have worse hand and similarly by end of a match. Irrelevant of how good my reads and plays are. The above matches I've felt like I've had an edge in most matches against mostly bad or break even opponents.

Main question is this. What have you found that works? Playing more, playing less and studying more, looking over big / all hands, doing HH reviews with people?

Thanks a lot, I just really want to get out of this breaking even rut where I get no where.
I would set a fixed ammount of 10$ games to build up confidence, then do the same at 20$ and shot 30$, while doing that you can pay for a few hh review since you ll be overrolled. Sudying your own game is player dependant, I have add and cant really study old games on my own, but i can easily study other people games like help a friend and review many basics or play more games, while some people will be good at watching stuff in a replayer and fix their games that way.
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01-03-2011 , 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
I would set a fixed ammount of 10$ games to build up confidence, then do the same at 20$ and shot 30$, while doing that you can pay for a few hh review since you ll be overrolled. Sudying your own game is player dependant, I have add and cant really study old games on my own, but i can easily study other people games like help a friend and review many basics or play more games, while some people will be good at watching stuff in a replayer and fix their games that way.
OK good idea about games to build up confidence. Any advice on numbers 20/50/100? Other option would be stopping after winning a certain number of BIs?

I'm already playing 60BIs deep at $20s if that's of any relevance. I'll also try and sort out some HH reviews with guys I know who are beating higher levels than I.


Thanks.
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01-03-2011 , 11:12 AM
if you want a serious confidence boost 100 or more.
I ve the same problem and play too overolled when i play reg speeds since i built my roll mostly with superturbo and it makes it much more difficult to move up since i m used to have 100-150 BIs and dont do a big volume of reg speed.
If i was you i d cash out 900$ and keep 300$ online to play 10$ and build back to play 30$ again on a 30 BI bankroll rule, enjoy those 900$, maybe spend some on some coaching and get back to grinding, i Know i cant really do that since i need all my bankroll to play superturbos but for you that may be valid option
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01-03-2011 , 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by MechanicalBoy
weird spot, 9 and T are really ugly, btw I like it (I also play 10$ @ ftp, sn: Zeitgeist85) I would probably fold turn against some nitty reg
Checked my HEM and we haven't played (yet)

in that hand I won - he was betting K4, but later that day I had almost exactly the same situation and was beat by 2pair.

I'm starting to like the line less, purely from the POV of losing initiative in the hand. Probably a raise early on is better than letting it run on too many streets (but then again that creates a big pot with a hand that might be hard to lay down - uh, I've no idea really).
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01-03-2011 , 12:57 PM
linecheck pls.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Poker Stars
($1,590)
Hero ($1,410)

Dealt to Hero J A

Hero raises to $60, calls $40

FLOP ($120) 6 8 9

checks, Hero bets $80, calls $80

TURN ($280) 6 8 9 A

checks, Hero bets $160, calls $160

RIVER ($600) 6 8 9 A 6

checks, Hero bets $275, raises to $1,290 (AI), Hero folds

wins $1,150
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01-03-2011 , 04:02 PM
I want to ask you, if is EV in my graph essential??? I have ROI 10% of 170 HUsng. And my EV is 5,5%. I go to all-in usually when is effective stack around 10BB.
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01-03-2011 , 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
if you want a serious confidence boost 100 or more.
I ve the same problem and play too overolled when i play reg speeds since i built my roll mostly with superturbo and it makes it much more difficult to move up since i m used to have 100-150 BIs and dont do a big volume of reg speed.
If i was you i d cash out 900$ and keep 300$ online to play 10$ and build back to play 30$ again on a 30 BI bankroll rule, enjoy those 900$, maybe spend some on some coaching and get back to grinding, i Know i cant really do that since i need all my bankroll to play superturbos but for you that may be valid option
Thanks I think I'll do what you said about 30BI rule. I won't cash out because the cash doesn't mean a lot to me and because I still have my first deposit bonus waiting which I void if I cash out. But I'll go back to 10s and then only move back up to 20s when my "pretend bankroll" is $600. Might donk around with the rest at 25NL 6max.

If I have a match I think it'd be useful I might see if I can get a leakfinder done on it. Any ideas on best matches? I'm wondering if it's a regular match where it turns out my main game has some leaks or a game where I was in tricky situation, but that might not help rest of my game. That goes for HH reviews as well and finding hands to post as well I guess.
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01-03-2011 , 08:07 PM
Even if the cash doesnt mean anything if it s still sitting in your account it s hard not to think about it as your bankroll. Something you can do is reset your sharkscope and use it as a base for your new bankroll and move up once you have 300$ profit. Dont donk around too much in other type of poker it s unlikely to have a positive outcome for your husng game whatever the result is.

About your hand reviews I did a few for the coaching tree and to start you can almost pick it at random as long as you have a decent ammount of hands you should have enought spots to discuss and after that review you should be able to know what kind of hh to pick if you want to do more to check spot you didnt have in the first hh.
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01-04-2011 , 12:14 AM
I'm having a lot of trouble closing out a big early lead. Say for example at the 10/20 or 15/30 level, I manage to whittle someone down to <300 chips, villain is pretty much playing push/fold at this stage. Is it standard for villain to continually just win these shoves and catch back up to you, and for this cycle to repeat 3-4x times?
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01-04-2011 , 01:56 AM
Even if you get him down to 300 chips your opponent will still win something like 10% of time at equal skill lvl , if you have alot of leaks in your endgame that might be higher, i have had many opponent that were so tight end game that it was easy to come back because they would be bleeding chips all the time
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01-04-2011 , 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by eddymitchel
Even if the cash doesnt mean anything if it s still sitting in your account it s hard not to think about it as your bankroll. Something you can do is reset your sharkscope and use it as a base for your new bankroll and move up once you have 300$ profit. Dont donk around too much in other type of poker it s unlikely to have a positive outcome for your husng game whatever the result is.

About your hand reviews I did a few for the coaching tree and to start you can almost pick it at random as long as you have a decent ammount of hands you should have enought spots to discuss and after that review you should be able to know what kind of hh to pick if you want to do more to check spot you didnt have in the first hh.
Thanks for all the advice much appreciated. I'll just use HEM filters instead of resetting SS, I rarely look at my own SS anyways.
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01-04-2011 , 06:52 AM
Hi, Im new to husng and I wonder what stats are NECESSARY in the hud for husng´s. (I play UNL turbos in stars)

Currently my hud looks like this:

BB vpip / BB pfr / 3bet / fold to 3bet
SB vpip / SB pfr / flop donkbet
flop AF / turn AF / river AF
flop cbet / flop fold to cbet / turn cbet / turn fold to cbet



I appreciate any recommendations.
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01-04-2011 , 06:54 AM
just play and add any stat you wish you had after your sessions
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01-04-2011 , 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by virukunn
Hi, Im new to husng and I wonder what stats are NECESSARY in the hud for husng´s. (I play UNL turbos in stars)

Currently my hud looks like this:

BB vpip / BB pfr / 3bet / fold to 3bet
SB vpip / SB pfr / flop donkbet
flop AF / turn AF / river AF
flop cbet / flop fold to cbet / turn cbet / turn fold to cbet



I appreciate any recommendations.
Be sure to check this thread.
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01-04-2011 , 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by DaLimit
I'm having a lot of trouble closing out a big early lead. Say for example at the 10/20 or 15/30 level, I manage to whittle someone down to <300 chips, villain is pretty much playing push/fold at this stage. Is it standard for villain to continually just win these shoves and catch back up to you, and for this cycle to repeat 3-4x times?
Yeah good question. In my experience it is sort of just standard. This is probably the most tilting thing about this form of poker. Especially at the lower limits where the spewtards just shove every friggen hand, but then magically fold pre-flop to your Aces.

But on a serious note, its just the way it is I think. The bad player will make the "bad play" and the better play will be forced to wait because most of the time they hold rubbish cards. All you can do is try to get it in with an edge of some description. The result shouldn't matter but of course it does!
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01-04-2011 , 04:09 PM
Why is the #1 on sharkscope's leaderboard for husngs miles ahead of everyone else? Just on a heater or is he that good?
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01-04-2011 , 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by DaLimit
Why is the #1 on sharkscope's leaderboard for husngs miles ahead of everyone else? Just on a heater or is he that good?
If you look at his graph he doesn't look that good^^(should be running really hot )
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01-04-2011 , 06:04 PM
I know i post the previous post but i found that easier to follow .
So i found that i lost many game against roi-15% (and more) player.
Because of that type of call
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iPoker Game 3382271327 / Tournament
Table "TURBO" NLH Heads Up $5 - 2011-01-04 18:57:51
Blinds : 30/60
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2 players
[But]+[SB] suckmyaces69 (1340)
[BB] tenetch12 (1660)

tenetch12 A 2 Initial Pot: 90

suckmyaces69 raises to 180
tenetch12 calls 120
### FLOP ### 7 3 3 Pot: 360
tenetch12 checks
suckmyaces69 bets 180
tenetch12 calls 180
### TURN ### T Pot: 720
tenetch12 checks
suckmyaces69 checks
### RIVER ### 6 Pot: 720
tenetch12 checks
suckmyaces69 bets 720
tenetch12 calls 720
suckmyaces69 shows Q 6
tenetch12 shows A 2
suckmyaces69 wins 2160 from the main pot with Two pairs, sixes and treys

my read on Villan he is agressive (full pot cbet, for the first round then he calme down ) but he play something like 50% percent of his hand preflop .

How could i have played it better ?
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01-05-2011 , 04:07 AM
What's the most tables you guys have played at the same time while still playing well? The most I ever see is 4, I've only tried 2 tables at once.
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01-05-2011 , 09:33 AM
HUSnG is closer to HU Cash than 6 or 9 man STTs by far. HU uses the same sort of range assessment skills, whereas STTs has to refer to things like ICM to put pressure on mid stacks etc.
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01-06-2011 , 03:04 AM
Just played a game that perplexed me.

Opp folds alot pre, so I raise 100% of buttons.

Opp also folds alot to cbet, from the bb even, before I even bet!

Now this sounds like an easy opp, but the chips I'm making from pre and cbet really didn't seem enough, because opp was jamming flops she hits on, tp and what not. Maybe even flush+pair type hands, and after a few of these jams in a row, I call with some equity, like pair+oesd and, ofc, she turns over a monster, and holds, and I'm right back to clawing away at her stack.

Our last game actually went through 75/150 and 100/200 blinds with me jamming alot from the sb, and she folding away, and ofc, hitting miracles when she finally got it in.

The donk-jam was very effective for her in our last game, and is a new move for her. It left me guessing with my mp type hands.

My q is....I'm up 7-1 on her now, or so, and she relentlessly sits me anyway.

You think I am doing it right, to continue the preflop raising, and the 100% cbet, if she is going to jam every flop she hits, and fold everything else?

Am I just crying about variance?
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