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Originally Posted by dandy warhol
What are standard amounts for 3-bet pf and raise on/after the flop in Poker Stars HUSNG Turbos?
your 3bet size should depend on number of BB in effective stacks rather than the tourney structure.
The standard floating around is usually 3x though don't ever have a set rule like this.
example 1, 15/30 1500stack.
villain sb min raise to 60
Hero 3bets to 180/200
never ever min 3bet here, your not getting enough value with your strong hands and giving him odds to call super wide (close to 100%) against your trash. 3betting small in general has this effect and usually turns your hand face up (most weak villains do this with monsters)
If villain is calling 3bets wide than you want to tighten your 3betting range and raise the 3bet size. Another thing to consider when stacks get short is if your 3betting >1/3 of your stack than your effectivly committing to a go and go so be aware of comitting to much of your stack pre (not saying it's a bad thing, go and go's are v.profitable against these oppenents if you work out a decent range to do it with).
example 2.
15/30 stacks 1500 villain is cbetting 80%
villain in sb min raises to 60
hero calls w/ JTo
Flop KK2r hero checks, villan bets 80 into 120
hero c/r to 200-240
here is a spot where your raising as a bluff, you don't want to min raise since that gives villain odds to call and raising over 3x won't get any more fold equity so go for 2.5-3x
(keep in mind that clicking back against a bunch of micro stakes fish works almost as well as 3x since they dnt rly care bout raise sizes (dnt know what stakes you play))
example 3.
25/50 1500 e.stack. villain has been cbetting 80%, otherwise not to tricky post flop,
villain sb raises to 100, hero calls w/A9o
flop A92cc hero checks, villain bets 120 hero raises to 240-300.
Here i like a min raise instead of 3x since it gets a much wider calling range (debateble and v.oppenet dependant tbf) playing for stacks on turn/river is just as easy with a min raised pot as a 3x pot while playing for stacks w/ just calling will be more difficult.
A nice rule to have (hypocrite i know :P) against non thinking players is to bluff raise small and value raise high.
so in short 3x won't get you into trouble to often above say 40bb, though it's not always (not even that often) max ev.
when trying to think of raise size make sure to include effective stack size and what your stack to pot ratio will look like on future streets (imo this is the most important variable)
hope that helps