since the raise size is 10% of our stack i think game theroy said we can shove if we think were ahead of his range (i might be wrong here)

As it is if you think villian will stack off with Ax small the i would jam as i think were ahead enough! however since this is the first time villian has done this then i fold as i genrally dislike flips!

agreed

yey someone with 1K+ posts agrees with me (currently preforming victory dance)

appologies for out burt

Your reasoning makes sense, but is not entirely correct. An extreme example would be a villain who raises 32o, 42o and AA like this. You are ahead of that range but I don't think it's +EV to shove preflop. Using it as a guideline will be correct though, in almost all cases.

Shoving here is most likely fine imo.

What do I do when shark scope is down? I feel like I need it to play. I'm playing $2 and some $5s

Stop having the need for sharkscope and sit in the lobbies. You will get sat by fish 90/100.

hey guys, I'm an MTT SNG player (45/90s on ftp and 45/180s on PS) and I've been thinking for a while that I should start playing HU as a secondary game when I dont have time/not in the mood to put in an MTT sng sesh. Obviously it never hurts to learn a new game, but also it could/should improve my HU play in sngs which as most of you know, the payouts are topheavy so this could be pretty clutch for me.

Anyway, I'm playing the ftp turbos as they should best suit me as theres a lot more 10-30 bb effective stack play which coincides with mtt sngs well.

Thoughts on what I should be doing? I dedicated $300 as my BR for SNGs...obv have a seperate roll for my 6-52 90s and 3r/12 180s. I started off grinding 6s just to get some experience, should I stick to those for say like 150 games and then see if im doing decent; if so then shottie $11s for like 5-10 bis? And obviously if I'm b/e or down I stick to the 6s until I'm doing better.

Also thoughts on this hand...this was the 3rd or 4th hand of the SNG and the villian snap clicked it back. OTF when he bet i was minraising to induce any draw (unlikely) or overs to spew off seeing FE. I wouldn't have folded if he 4b stuck it in imo as i woulda been priced in; thats correct eh?

Full Tilt Poker $11 + $0.50 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (BTN/SB): t1515 50.50 BBs
BB: t1485 49.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 8
Hero raises to t90, BB raises to t150, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t300) 7 5 7 (2 players)
BB bets t240, Hero raises to t480, BB folds

Final Pot: t780
Hero wins t780


Thanks again

^^ I would min-raise instead of 3x here if you've min raised other hands so far in the match. Min-raising a wide range tends to better exploit the random player. As played, not sure what we should do against the 3-bet. I kind of want to shove, but we are awfully deep. Maybe 4-bet to a size that commits you on the flop? Not sure.

Raising the flop is pretty bad IMO. It immediately folds out all of his air and might even fold out 5x. I would just flat.

couple points
1. I am minraise opening; not sure why i 3x'd that one. In the reg speed ones on ftp i could see 3xing at 10/20 since you're deeper, but playing the turbos i know to be minraising so im not sure why i didnt that time

2. Shoving seems like overkill/a bad play since you're going to fold out most/all hands that we beat. Also on that flop you're saying that with something like Aq/Ak nobody's ever going to spew it off after my minraise thinking they still have FE...this sort of play works well in mtt sngs from what ive played

I agree about shoving. Not sure what's best, but in general 88 is a very good hand to 4-bet shove in similar spots because it doesn't play very well post and does well against his calling range.

Flop: remember that ranges are so so much wider in HUSNGs than they are in MTT SNGs. IMO, fish play AK and AQ differently than they'd play other hands with 2 overs because they get attached to having a good hand pre flop. Since here hands like that make up a much smaller portion of his range, I don't think we can expect similar spazes.

In any case, his range is very often air on that board and it seems like letting him continue on the turn or something is going to be better than raising.

My hesitation is that if we flat, we give a lot of free equity to overcards to try and get there by the river. I still think flatting is better, but it's something to think about.

Also, IMO, we can get called by worse not too infrequently when we jam 88

At $2 and $5 husngs, I typically run into villains who either raise each button or limp each button.

Since both of these players have wide ranges, I'll typically 3bet the top 9%, but I remember reading somewhere that it might be a good idea to 3bet the lower part of your range for fold equity. This makes a lot of sense if they are folding to the 3bets and I just wanted to make sure that this is a good idea.

3bet the very top for value and the bottom for fold equity, then call the middle stuff that plays well post flop?

thx for the responses again, appreciate it

just watched the primordialAA vids, were pretty good

value 4bang preflop ~330, my hand plays well postflop vs a min3banging drooler (most likely, although 88 is the bottom of the pairs I do that with and calling is fine as well) and I'm happy getting him in spots where he is uncomfortable and spew off . fwiw I think jamming is just terrible with any pair preflop, hes giving us a good price to play postflop so theres no need to end the hand right here with any hand we have.

As played, I like a bigger raise as he's not folding ax to a small raise period and I want him to feel commited on the turn. Maybe bump it up to 560.

word, so besides raising a bit more (instead of clicking it back...but still very small raise OTF), my line isnt horrid

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Another question, hopefully it hasn't been answered a bunch of times itt, if so i apologize and just tell me to stfu and look through the entire thread

I had this come up where a crazy lag who was min 3bing a ton was down to ~700 at 20/40 and i was minraising my normal range but he was just 3bing every time to 160-180 and i was having to fold mostly; so should i just adjust to near nash ranges and push/fold?

His stats were (over 31 hands):
SB Open: 67%
BB call open: 50%
3b %: 55%

nash and push fold ~17 deep is -ev. The only time I'd do that is if I were tired and r-q sat me.

Since this guy is obviously playing bad, push/fold here is obviously bad.
Firstly, since this guy is not folding the BB, don't ever raise/fold, and fold all your trash.
Limp stuff like weak ax, kxs, small PP (ie stuff thats good preflop but you want FE with) and jam over his raise of your limp (which I'm pretty sure he does very often).
You can raise/call some better sc and q9 type stuff (hes giving you odds and I'm sure the guy will spew off postflop)
and finally raise/shove for value with KT+,A7o+axs,66+(although with your super premiums like aa/kk raise/call is fine as well)

okay cool; thats about what i had been doing, was just getting pwnd for a short time til he spewed it off

thx again

good spot to just open jam since we dont want to raise/call right?

villian is pretty nitty over 40 hands
40% sb open
33% bb call open
7% 3b

Full Tilt Poker $6 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t25/t50 Blinds - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: t735 14.70 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t2265 45.30 BBs

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 4
Hero raises to t2265 all in, 1 fold

Final Pot: t100
Hero wins t100

yeah I shove this against 97% of villains (vs some super loose passive players we can limp vs some manics who don't understand pot commitment we can lrr)

Hi. . i am sure it is somewhere in this thread..but a search found me nothing..what is a good and or great roi for HU $23 turbos .
i ask because i am running about 30% over 100 games at $23 turbos on Full Tilt..obviously not a huge sample size.. but what are the best players at this level achieving over a large sample size ?...thanks

SNG EV question; shouldn't I be awarded 34% (my preflop win%) of the prize pool for this hand in $EV seeing as villain busts if I win the hand? How come I get 0. Or maybe I don't understand how it's supposed to work?
Do I only get positive $EV if I bust out of the tournament? I though I'd get +$EV in hands where I have villain allin and he wins the hand.

Poker Stars $6.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players

Hero (BB): t2940 147 BBs
BTN/SB: t60 3 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 6 8
BTN/SB raises to t60 all in, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 7 J 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: (t120) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t120) Q (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t120
Hero shows 6 8 (high card King)
BTN/SB shows T 6 (high card King - Queen+Jack+Ten kicker)
BTN/SB wins t120

(Xposted in holdem manager forum)

no you get 34% of ($12/3000chips)*60villains chips

I was just wondering if everyone agreed with this.

Nash has some hands as good at 20+, for example.

Plus I railed some high stakes regulars who shove alot at 15-20bb's.

nash =/= playing a strategy that includes openshoving a portion of your range 15-20 bb deep

if you want to shove nash you shove nash, ie. you follow it to the letter. And shoving nash is -ev past 8bb iirc

Not 12bb?

hi, have like regular question. what kind of session limits do you use. for example stop loss after loose 3 buy ins, or fix profit? can anybody take me advice? thx