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Originally Posted by mela
So this seems like a new start for HUSNG players.
Let me start off with this question: for those who play turbo HUSNG's both @ Stars and FT, which do you think offers a better format for turbos? In the end it becomes pretty much similar, but I just thought that higher ROI can be attained on Stars just because it gives more rooms for play in the first 10 minutes (10/20 and 15/30)..?
I used to think that Stars offered a higher potential ROI due to the deeper starting stacks (75bb on Stars compared to 50bb on FTP) and the slower time levels (5 minutes blind increases on Stars versus 3 minutes on FTP).
However, I saw a lot of the regulars on Full Tilt achieving similar ROIs (slightly lower but not significantly lower) to the regular players on Stars. This happened almost exclusively at the $55+ buyin levels, but not so much the lower stakes.
Over time I believe this is due to players in the Full Tilt turbo structure developing very solid mid to end game skills. The Full Tilt structure keeps a lot of play in the 10-30bb area and that is an area that non heads up sng players particularly struggle in, as short stacks are not something that comes up in many other structures (at least not heads up).
This theory would explain why the lower stakes turbo players weren't having as high of ROIs in the Full Tilt structure as well, since lower stakes players tend to have less experience and skills than higher stakes professionals.
I think both structures offer a lot of positives and few negatives. For beginner players, Full Tilt's rakeback system will reward you about 2x as much as Stars VIP system will, but you'll be playing a faster structure if you choose the turbo speed games and newer players are less likely to succeed in a faster structure.
For higher stakes players, they can achieve virtually identical effective rakeback from PokerStars VIP program as they can with Full Tilt rakeback. They may find a higher hourly rate possible if they have a strong end game on Full Tilt (faster games and similar ROI = higher hourly rate) but as of now the population of players on PokerStars seems to be greater than Full Tilt at these levels.
It's also worth noting that while different structures (FTP regular speed and Stars turbos are the most similar), the Full Tilt regular speed (6 minute blind increases and starting stacks of 75bb) and PokerStars regular speed (10 minute blind increases and starting stacks of 75bb) structures are excellent choices for newer players, as they allow a lot of time with significant chip stacks for players to develop reads and adjust to their opponents. It's almost certain that you will need to play a faster structure as you approach the $100 buyin levels and higher, however, due to a lack of action in the slower structures.
Last edited by ChicagoRy; 09-29-2010 at 08:19 PM.