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Beginner Quesrtion: The Mystery of Calling in the BB Beginner Quesrtion: The Mystery of Calling in the BB

11-07-2013 , 01:06 PM
It's tempting isn't it, they're always min raising pre flop and you're getting 3:1 to call. If every street was checked after pre-flop then I'd only need to win 25% of the time to break even right?

Can you fold anything to these odds? I find it hard!

Does it depend on player a lot (post flop aggression, pre flop raise frequency)?

What's your cut off for calling min raises pre-flop? Does it change a lot if they start making it 2.5x or 3x?

I am playing $3.50 if that makes a difference.

Any responses massively appreciated. Best response will get kisses and hugs via private message (state if don't want).

Many thanks in advance.
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11-07-2013 , 02:29 PM
You've got it: it depends on a lot of things including how often they open, how aggressive they are post flop and the size of the raise.
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11-08-2013 , 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Vinegar2
You've got it: it depends on a lot of things including how often they open, how aggressive they are post flop and the size of the raise.
Cool. cool, cool, cool.

Would it be possible to get your opinion on what post-flop traits of are opponents you think are conducive to widening or narrowing our pre-flop calling range?

I think this would be a highly interesting and productive discourse.
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11-12-2013 , 09:49 PM
very good question. You're spot on. Calling ranges have gotten alot wider from the BB compared to a few years ago. You want to adjust based on not only their MR freq. but also their cbet% (more they cbet the less profitable calling is). Against aggro regs with a high MR and Cbet% you might wanna 3bet your weak hands instead of flatting
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11-13-2013 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by CryingBuddha
Cool. cool, cool, cool.

Would it be possible to get your opinion on what post-flop traits of are opponents you think are conducive to widening or narrowing our pre-flop calling range?

I think this would be a highly interesting and productive discourse.
it is pretty straight forward: the wider villain's opening range and the worse he is postflop overall, the wider your calling range from the big blind should be. of course this is only a qualitive statement and doesn't give you insights along the line of "should i flat Q4o to a minraise?", but if you take into account your overall profitability with those hands (i.e. Q4o might have been a break even flat against a minraise historically for you against all villains), you can adjust your calling ranges to specific villains.

as to which post flop traits are important: most important stat is cbet percentage. if your opponent is raising a tight range but only cbetting like 40%, then you can still call most hands. if however villain is opening 80% but cbetting 90%, it gets alot tougher to play a hand like 76o, because your potential of flopping a strong hand might not be enough. then you will have to take other factors into account, can you get him to fold alot with a small checkraise? or is he the type to barrell of alot, so that you can calldown and let him hang himself?

another important factor is his behaviour against 3bets preflop: hands like 65o might be marginal calls preflop, but might be trivial 3bet bluffs against certain opponents with suitable dynamics.
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