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barrel river or not? barrel river or not?

06-29-2021 , 10:16 AM
PokerStars - 10/20 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 24.5 BB
BB: 25.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 5

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (2 BB, 2 players) K 2 K
BB checks, Hero bets 1 BB, BB calls 1 BB

Turn: (4 BB, 2 players) 9
BB checks, Hero bets 3 BB, BB calls 3 BB

River: (10 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero checks

Here are the notes I got on villain:

float wide
mincb trips
bluff probe R
barrel SP
pot donk/f
3b/f --- note: he 3b nai and folded to 4b


Here are his overall stats:



Would you bet the turn here?

And what about the river?

I'd like to know how am I supposed to construct my turn betting range, as I get confused on paired boards.

I pressume, that we should have some and then which suits do we prefer? In theory, we shouldn't have spades, correct? But does this matter vs average villain, who will float random hands anyway?

Also, what sizing do you think is the best otr if you decide to bet?

Let's say, that bottom of a value range would be trips and then flushes. Should I split my river betting range for two sizings?

Maybe too many questions, but I'd be glad if you guys could answer just a few of them.
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06-29-2021 , 05:20 PM
I think that barrelling river is almost mandatory, but didn't put in a solver, so I may be very wrong.
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06-30-2021 , 03:45 AM
Judging from those stats opp cant be reg so imo you are overthinking it, just play the hand.

Yeah, Id bet turn with your reads he floats wide. And Id also bet river because of that, he will have a lot of air otr and blocking flush is also nice.

But if we would be readless, Id go for bet/check/bet line, just because avg person will overfold to limp cbets and Id hate to see check raise ott with this hand and avg player also will probe bluff less so we still can bet river and fold out his 2x and some floats like QT
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07-01-2021 , 03:08 PM
Yeah, I should've continued otr.

I can't remember whether villain was a station or not. Because, I tend to level myself vs such players and then I check when I should bet.

Interesting, I feel like people tend to call down BxB line quite light. But maybe I am picking up the wrong spots.

What if it was a rainbow board, would BxB line still be good?

I overthink paired boards a lot. Because people love to slowplay the trips otf, so it's hard to play against that. But BxB makes a lot of sense. I should try it.

What sizing would you suggest for BxB line otr?
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07-01-2021 , 06:17 PM
If its a rainbow board Id still go for bxb, we prob get bit more calls because fd missed but imo not that much that we should give up.

Yeah, people will flat trips, thats(and because of flushes) why I dont like barreling turn in this hand vs random.

Id bet something like 3/4, there just isnt much he can call, lucky 9x + a lot of 9 will probe, and 2x if we are facing station.
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07-02-2021 , 07:20 AM
Rainbow board + useless river, we can lose a lot of chips to K or Flash, but i think 70% bet on river will push him to pass a lot of combinations, could be even K+low card. Only problem that in other cases we will lose to strong combinations. Just my suggestions, im not a good one poker player Abi 1-2$.
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07-02-2021 , 07:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dantesilvio
Rainbow board + useless river, we can lose a lot of chips to K or Flash, but i think 70% bet on river will push him to pass a lot of combinations, could be even K+low card. Only problem that in other cases we will lose to strong combinations. Just my suggestions, im not a good one poker player Abi 1-2$.
Welcome to the forum.
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07-02-2021 , 05:01 PM
Raise pre flop.

What your bet represent on turn? Kx? Or flush maybe?
If he didn't belive you he can float with a lot of hands on streets and make +EV.

What solver recommend in these spot?
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07-02-2021 , 05:05 PM
Yea raise pre is much better based on villain's stats. Maybe he has run poorly over that sample so far, but it's unlikely he's defending more than 65%ish - so raising pre is $$$ w a hand like this.
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07-05-2021 , 05:15 PM
Villain folds 54% to limpstab -> def not reverse floating wide enough. Check turn is reasonable, considering we have much more equity if we check than when we bet and get called.

Giving up turn is fine, as played we should bet something like 30% OTR - fold out 2x, Qh, Ah...

Villain is a (reg) fish, you can raise more pre. But basic gameplan is just to VPIP more often than villain.
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