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11-27-2017 , 02:55 PM
i have near 60 cev at 100s so i think that i can make that ev with my volume at 500s. but oh i forget that pokerstars has to freeze good volumers. as i said i hope the worst for the company.
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11-27-2017 , 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by bstefano08
i have near 60 cev at 100s so i think that i can make that ev with my volume at 500s. but oh i forget that pokerstars has to freeze good volumers. as i said i hope the worst for the company.
havent you been playing 30s not too long ago ?
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11-27-2017 , 03:56 PM
my main stake is 100s. i have played little 30s. 95% of my games are 100s
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11-27-2017 , 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bstefano08
i know that i am hungarian and you ban lot of hungarian people but you wont find anything bad to me. i know that some hungarians they are selling bots but i dont have anything. the only that i did is that just i bought some solutions and i tried to put these in my game
I mean if you somehow in contact with people who are botting it's pretty obv that you became a suspect yourself.

And it doesn't mean stars thinks you are you have a bot. There a probably a lot of people that get into trouble due to illegal register soft, illegal chart use, aid tools etc...
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11-27-2017 , 04:25 PM
i think that all the spin players had messages on skype to buy bots. but i never answered on that. if its like that then pokerstars has to freeze everyone . the only that i ask is to lock my cashout and let me play 500s. and then if they think that i am not legal to ban me and give money to players.but they dont want someone to play 9k games in 9 days. i feel bad because really i worked hard all these days to improve my game and it was chance of my life to make that money. now i have to wait 2 or 3 months and see the result of investigation. the mail that i had didnt say anything about bot just they ask me how i improved and with who i worked with. still this is not a good reason to freeze me and loose 500s.
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11-27-2017 , 04:27 PM
also i am not using anything. i am playing just with a laptop and nothing else. i dont have screens connected to laptop or anything else. i cant have any charts just on laptop screen.. and pokerstars have to know that i am using just a laptop
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11-27-2017 , 05:22 PM
how many tables have you been playing if your goal was 1kgames/day?
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11-27-2017 , 05:24 PM
Of all 100$ regs Opay and bstefano will be the last 2 i would imagine to have anything to do with botting to be honest, it should be something else or really Amaya starting some worrying witch-hunt.

What kind of monthly volume were you playing - bstefano, fontainerot, Opay, DRRomero. It's clear for FRQQZ.
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11-27-2017 , 07:50 PM
My game does not prove anything bot game I have worse cev than bstefano on the other hand, avenger was playing less than 3k games per month, I set the goal of playing 150 tournaments a day sometimes a little more sometimes less and rested one day at the week, this is getting out of hand and it seems that they want to destroy regs haci be honest, as stefano says the problem is to learn to play gto xDDDD in case we just know how to play a bit of gto preflop because postflop is another world, sorry for my disgusting English since it is pure translator
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11-27-2017 , 07:51 PM
in on an epic thread..

is it just me finding it very hard to trust any hungarian regs right now?
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11-27-2017 , 08:48 PM
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Originally Posted by bstefano08
i am 100% legal
I have to laugh so hard And I am sick in the same time, that you can lie so easily Akis333. You say that you are 100% legal with buying different accounts here and there and using your bot, and you are selling bots to others for 20k? And 100% legal?

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know that some hungarians they are selling bots but i dont have anything
Yes ofc you dont have... If you would just not write to here and cry because of your big chance... You are already over 1M from your bots... But you are here in the name of an other person than you, using a hungarian nick, saying everything is legal, not using any bot, and crying about your 150k? After winning 1M? And you really come to the public to cry and understand your pain? You are alone. You are just smashing other regulars by selling your bots for everyone, and human regulars wont have a chance just to buy your sh i t, or stop playing poker. You just dont realize, that while you and your bots are earning millions of dollars, other non-bot regulars have to stay on lower stakes, earn less, or quit poker. So you, Akis333, 1 person collect all the money, what other tens or hundreds non-bot, hard-working regulars would earn. You, 1 person, will stop other 10s or 100s real legal accounts from playing. Good job, I hope money will bring you all the happiness into your life.
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11-27-2017 , 09:03 PM
fontainerot was playing lower stakes, slowly built up, then (ofc after not akis buying it) crushing 100 with 60 chipEV, bstefano88 slowly built up from lower stakes, then crusing 100 with exactly 60 chipEV again, fontainerot saying that "how could he write a bot even if he can't speak English well" (WTF?), then bstefano saying "sorry for my english" and "how can he be a bot if he has only a laptop" (WTF??). OMG what could be the same with these accounts? Maybe the same terrible reasons why they cant be a bot? The same bad english always explaining about it? Who would ever say these things, who wasn't programming a bot before? Why is that there is always 1 account which is doing exactly 60 chipEV at the same time? Why is that akis333 is selling bots saying that he is doing over 60 chipEV with it?
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11-27-2017 , 09:09 PM
fontainerot from andorra, but playing from switzerland, akis living in switzerland, hmmm, I dont understand What could be the connection?
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11-27-2017 , 09:15 PM
This let's make 150k at 500s for few days really somehow reminds me of Akis advertising. Totally undetectable of course.

And yeah the part with "how can I make a bot without knowing English" was top notch stuff. Sadly thread is taking a really bad turn.
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11-27-2017 , 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by againstbots
fontainerot from andorra, but playing from switzerland, akis living in switzerland, hmmm, I dont understand What could be the connection?
but let's see ..... like I'm playing from Switzerland ??????, what nonsense is this ... can you explain it to me?
I have been living for almost a year in Andorra, and everything I have played has been totally correct from here. I do not know who you are, nor what intention you have saying these falsehoods about me, but to tell lies, look for another thread
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11-27-2017 , 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kobmish
This let's make 150k at 500s for few days really somehow reminds me of Akis advertising. Totally undetectable of course.

And yeah the part with "how can I make a bot without knowing English" was top notch stuff. Sadly thread is taking a really bad turn
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Let's see ... if I made that comment was a joke (it's a joke we have with my friends grinders here, nothing more). The issue is very serious for me, and you can not imagine the anger that it has done all things well and legal and suddenly one day you start to log in with your PS.com account and you realize that it is frozen , you do not understand what is going on and I am 2 MONTHS away ... So what I just feel is anger and impotence of not being able to do anything and having almost all my bank frozen there without having any fault.

Anyway, I do not expect any support from regs like you, because obviously you who are several regs that generate good EV without playing is great for you ... so I understand that you try to discredit the thread
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11-27-2017 , 09:36 PM
Playing the "******ed" irl role who just knows how to click buttons in the soft looks suspicious even w/o evidence, that said, everyone knows that to be playing 100s you must be a smart guy otherwise you wouldn't have made it so IMO as much as it sucks the best route is to present all the evidence you guys can and wait for the response instead of "tilting" here or that the proof of not using aid is that you are playing from laptop, etc...
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11-27-2017 , 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by fontainerote
Anyway, I do not expect any support from regs like you, because obviously you who are several regs that generate good EV without playing is great for you ... so I understand that you try to discredit the thread
Chill bro, nothing in the post you quoted was even directed towards you. I couldn't care less if you play or don't play 100s, but yeah I am on a hidden agenda to discredit the thread.

If I were a gambling man, I'd say that probably someone posting here is innocent. Likely a minority though.
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11-27-2017 , 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by againstbots
fontainerot was playing lower stakes, slowly built up, then (ofc after not akis buying it) crushing 100 with 60 chipEV, bstefano88 slowly built up from lower stakes, then crusing 100 with exactly 60 chipEV again, fontainerot saying that "how could he write a bot even if he can't speak English well" (WTF?), then bstefano saying "sorry for my english" and "how can he be a bot if he has only a laptop" (WTF??). OMG what could be the same with these accounts? Maybe the same terrible reasons why they cant be a bot? The same bad english always explaining about it? Who would ever say these things, who wasn't programming a bot before? Why is that there is always 1 account which is doing exactly 60 chipEV at the same time? Why is that akis333 is selling bots saying that he is doing over 60 chipEV with it?







Who told you that I win at 60chip / EV or where did you get this nonsense ????? Who told you that I come from lower stakes ???? I repeat again my story playing spin and go to make it clear:

-Start in September 2017: playing 1k games of 20s at pokerstars.es
- October 2016 - March 2017: 50s at pokerstars.es
- And since March 2017: playing at 100s pokerstars.com

I have nothing to do with this Akis guy or know anything about bots or anything like that, so if you're going to come here to put and let go of lies, I think you're wrong.

I repeat (to make it clear), I have a clear conscience that I did not do anything illegal playing pokerstars and I just hope all this ends soon.

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11-27-2017 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by alejolb
Playing the "******ed" irl role who just knows how to click buttons in the soft looks suspicious even w/o evidence, that said, everyone knows that to be playing 100s you must be a smart guy otherwise you wouldn't have made it so IMO as much as it sucks the best route is to present all the evidence you guys can and wait for the response instead of "tilting" here or that the proof of not using aid is that you are playing from laptop, etc...
I do not want to reflect a role of ******ed, I think you're wrong (my comment on English was just a joke), nor will I play from my laptop, if you think that's my intention you're wrong. I just want to emphasize that I am a normal player who has always done things right and suddenly without knowing why he is in this situation.

On the other hand, I do not understand the attitude of bstefano vs watergun, because I am grateful to him, he is the only person related to pokerstars who is explaining how things work, so for my part I am delighted that he helps us with his explanations.
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11-27-2017 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Avenger655
Of all 100$ regs Opay and bstefano will be the last 2 i would imagine to have anything to do with botting to be honest, it should be something else or really Amaya starting some worrying witch-hunt.

What kind of monthly volume were you playing - bstefano, fontainerot, Opay, DRRomero. It's clear for FRQQZ.
Last months volume lower than ever, arround 1500 to 2k/month.

It really looks like a witch-hunt

Now i have to make a video, but its quite difficult to find a webcam that capture fine tables+hud.
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11-27-2017 , 10:20 PM
Good to see, stars is fighting against bots. I hope you will continue and take more actions against other cheaters as well. You should froze witdrawal button for regs, and run tests on their playing style, randomness of their betting sizes and correlation with gto, before let them withdraw. Randomly ask regs for long live videos of their playing, with clearn view on set up. Run more tests. I mean how come stars does not have this automatized? Shocked to hear it. After 100 hands is clear, either player is rec or reg. Funny to hear, you only watch players with more volume. This is kinda simple, raise cost for cheaters. After being ban few times, people will stop.

Not only people with gto bots cheat, there are many stables, which share hand history. I do not play poker regulary anymore, but i understand regs have my frequencies. Is annoying. Why we can not change SN. Why you keep allowing stables? Why you keep sending hand history to players. No hand history, no stables. Simple as that. They killing every game out there, and making it terrible experience for recs.
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11-27-2017 , 11:30 PM
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Who told you that I win at 60chip / EV or where did you get this nonsense ?????
I don't even understand how can you be that "smart" to say that, it is 3 clicks to check.

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like I'm playing from Switzerland ??????
I was playing against your bought account on 100, and you were playing from there.

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I do not know who you are, nor what intention you have saying these falsehoods about me, but to tell lies, look for another thread
But I exactly know, who you are.

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I have nothing to do with this Akis guy
I can help, that's you, my friend.

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I do not want to reflect a role of ******ed, I think you're wrong (my comment on English was just a joke), nor will I play from my laptop
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Originally Posted by bstefano08
also i am not using anything. i am playing just with a laptop and nothing else
Do you still remember, that you wrote the laptop thing from your another account bstefano88? Or why would fonatinerote defend an argue which is related to bstefano88? You never said before, that you are using a laptop.



I don't want to discredit the thread, if it is about a human, who has been banned from stars with no reason. But the problem is that they are banned because you, akis333, pokerstars wants to catch your accounts and your bots, so other human regulars will be banned as well. And I know few of regulars personally, who were banned, while not doing anything against stars, and in the other part I heard bunch of accounts, who were banned, while buying and running akis bots. This is the problem, what you still don't see, YOU are making other regulars to be banned from stars, while you are crying about YOUR money. But you don't care about OTHER regulars, who were banned, because of you. YOU don't give a sh i t, because for you it is totally okay if other human regulars will be banned, and get in trouble, stoping them to earn money, while you can buy more accounts and earn more money.

You said that you don't know me, but you tried to sell your bots and tried to buy a lots of accounts from many people. Some said yes, some said no, but you told us a lot of information. So it is true, you don't know me, but we know you.
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11-28-2017 , 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by againstbots
I don't even understand how can you be that "smart" to say that, it is 3 clicks to check.



I was playing against your bought account on 100, and you were playing from there.



But I exactly know, who you are.



I can help, that's you, my friend.





Do you still remember, that you wrote the laptop thing from your another account bstefano88? Or why would fonatinerote defend an argue which is related to bstefano88? You never said before, that you are using a laptop.



I don't want to discredit the thread, if it is about a human, who has been banned from stars with no reason. But the problem is that they are banned because you, akis333, pokerstars wants to catch your accounts and your bots, so other human regulars will be banned as well. And I know few of regulars personally, who were banned, while not doing anything against stars, and in the other part I heard bunch of accounts, who were banned, while buying and running akis bots. This is the problem, what you still don't see, YOU are making other regulars to be banned from stars, while you are crying about YOUR money. But you don't care about OTHER regulars, who were banned, because of you. YOU don't give a sh i t, because for you it is totally okay if other human regulars will be banned, and get in trouble, stoping them to earn money, while you can buy more accounts and earn more money.

You said that you don't know me, but you tried to sell your bots and tried to buy a lots of accounts from many people. Some said yes, some said no, but you told us a lot of information. So it is true, you don't know me, but we know you.
Well, well ... I have no idea where you got all these lies. I want to emphasize that EVERYTHING, ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING YOU SAY IS FALSE. Now I have to leave and I can not answer in parts, but I want to make it clear in front of the entire poker community that ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT THE USER SAYS "AGAINSTBOTS" IS YOUR INVENTION AND FALSE.
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