Sorry to disappoint, but I've reported three players, which is far from 'every new reg.' Very close though.

That said, newer accounts that automatically crush/play GTO rightly deserve at least some level of suspicion and you even said that. All that reporting does is encourage PS to investigate, I highly doubt that they're automatically freezing accounts simply because of one email.

newer accounts that automatically crush/play GTO at mid/high stakes should be auto targeted and banned without question.

**** that ever being legit ever.

its like someone playing overwatch(fps game) and being a grandmaster right off the bat. its not ****ing possible AND 100% of the time it involves ghosting or cheating/use of programs.

no athelete, no player at any physical sport or mind sport, or e-sport has ever achieved success on the highest and most difficult level on day 1. or day 100.

MAYBE day 500-1000. **** these dirty euro cheaters

Congrats on the gig Watergun7! It is certainly reassuring to know PS is (still) hiring people of your calibre for such roles.

The fact that Stars hired you in order to help them is a good step.

Also that confirms the lack of knowledge that integrity Group had in the Past so they concluded in approaching you to assist them.

As for the "methods of detection" I know that Stars software can detect many info about every player's PC setup which by Law has no Permission to do. However even this illegal method is insufficient nowadays. Believe me you didn't reveal anything and I don't think there is something you can whisper that I don't acknowledge already.

Apart for you and abarone which off course I can't know the exact ammount of reports that you have sent to Stars, there are many regs that report any newcomer reg at 100s without any strong allegations about him.

Also because you speak about the "template response" most of it is typical form, however because actually you are denying from someone access to his "job" you should be providing more info and ask more specific questions. Rather than that most of them are irrelevant, totally wrong and definitely not to the point.

To conclude that, I know regs that got frozen or banned without using any illegal software and I also know people that you reported which are far away from the typical GTO bot player, but I won't write them down here.

Let's keep this thread serious without "stars favoring certain regs", etc. Take the trolling and just general brain-dead **** somewhere else.

but what about doomswitch and winning/losing accounts ???

@watergun7 can you talk about how many spin players accounts were frozen in the recent months for botting? or at least if it is 2 digits or 3 digits already?

Sure I am brain dead... I have a strong memory and remember many SS members having shipped 200x two or maybe 3 times at 100s without off course by any means having played the ammount of games that they should have, based on statistics. Also many received a 200x strong welcome on their first month of their climb at 100s. Sadly I haven't created a list of all the 200x winners at 100s but I wish I had...

I was always a strong believer that online Poker at big sites like stars is not rigged. However I believe that the part of multies and jackpots can be easily controllable by Stars if they want. We all remember the promo for ten millionaires recently and the extra rake they put in 100s for that. How many millionaires did we actually get?? The two consecutive Jackpots at 100s?

I don't understand why u attack me. Everything I say is 100% based on facts and I am not willing to insult anyone. As for SS I believe they are the best organized staking group and that they deserve this number one they have achieved by all means! However, If you believe that spins is a fair game for everyone and that Amaya is doing a Perfect job then either you work for them, or you live in another world.

i can't see any facts in your posts other than just your words

"SmartSpin has some guys who hit more high multis than expected" ----> "Pokerstars is rigged."

- Facts in 2017.

Besides, SS advertises the hell out of its horses' binks, so people who read its news too often may get an impression that all the horses do is bink.

This isn't you right?

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...eback-1591843/


Just a Spanish player @ 100s again out of nowhere that put in some sick volume..

Edit: Don't believe it's you in that post either..

I shipped two of them, and I've publicly berated Stars on many occasions.

A few posts earlier, you definitively stated I was reporting every new reg, which was pure speculation on your part and demonstratively false.

Regardless, I think your heart is in the right place. We both would like the games to be cleaner, the guilty parties punished and the innocent ones spared. You're a bit more "tinfoil hat" than I am right now, but it's not like widespread corruption among online gaming sites is that crazy of an idea.

This was the email I received:

Hello Rubén,

We are writing to advise that your Stars Account has been frozen.

After an initial investigation, it appears you may be using software which may be in breach of our Terms of Service.

Our rules on this issue are explained on our website:

www.pokerstars.com/poker/room/prohibited

We are currently investigating this situation. Could you please answer the following questions:

- List of all poker related software (Third Party Tools) you use to aide your play on our site.

- Do you use any reference material (Push/Fold charts, Starting hand charts, decision trees, hand or situation analysers etc.) while you play on our site?

- If yes where did you obtain this material from? Please provide us with a copy of any such reference material for inspection?

- Where did you learn how to play poker & have you learned the game from other players? Have you studied poker and the games or stakes you play with others? If yes can you please provide us the information who you've learned from or if you have been part of any study groups / communities for learning the game.

- Has there been any drastic changes to your strategy / playing style recently? If yes what has lead to this?

- Do you have any other information that you would like us to take into account?

We ask for a response within 48 hours. In the event that no response has been received within that time frame, we will take appropriate action without your contribution.

Best Regards,

Harry
Stars Game Integrity

[QUOTE=SpinPlayer;53054515]Liked this Thread and would like to share my thoughts on many aspects of the game...

1. As for your case fontainerot, It's true that many regs are frozen unfairly by stars but I don't think that's the case for you. Your playing style is very close to GTO, you came in 100s from nowhere and you don't mention in your posts that you used PioSolver in order to improve. There is no way you play that way without having Pio experience and the fact that you don't mention it shows you have something to hide...

Hello, I'm sorry for answering you so late but I've been a few days of disconnection. Tell you that if you think that I play closed GTO, sincerely you have no idea of playing GTO ... And I confirm, I do not use piosolver to study, I have co-workers who use it and sometimes I ask them questions about hands. .. But I do not have the license purchased ... So I have nothing to hide

Hello! Count on me for whatever it takes.
My skype: fontainerote

To conclude that, I know regs that got frozen or banned without using any illegal software and I also know people that you reported which are far away from the typical GTO bot player, but I won't write them down here.[/QUOTE]

I assure you that I am one of them ... I do not use illegal software nor am I the prototype player bot GTO

Updates?

My account has been closed today too, my nick its DOCTORROMERO i play 100s too, also the same questions, im playing spins since more than two years beggining in .es

Dont use anything only made changes in my game since i bought skier_5 GTO database to study after sessions.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...abase-1677018/

Well,feel free to see my thread too,and I urge you to make your own!

Hi! In my case, PS supporters sent me an e-mail asking me to record during a game session, with several conditions. I made that recording, I sent it to you on October 9 and I still have not received any reply from you. I guess it's a good sign that they asked me for the video, I have no idea how long these types of revisions usually take them ... I hope that soon everything is solved and this nightmare ends.

Hello good day I am opaymybills, I am Colombian but currently I live in Chile, on the one hand this has me a little puzzled because as fontainer says learn a bit of GTO and play tables that gave you some stable is now illegal because I do not know the truth, I want this to be done effectively and to be thawed by the fact that several of us, who have just started to know the subject of bots, have suffered unfair freezes, on the other hand, in my history, I started playing hyper turbos de 3.5, de hay jumps the spins of 7 usd and lasts a lot of there went up to the 15s and so in a period of 2 years to reach 100s and trying to play well do this, I am not the best 100s plus I have a cev of 45 and notice that this is unfair, I write this to make you realize that this is getting out of hand thanks friends and blessings

Sorry to disappoint any players that have been frozen but after amaya took stars everything got worse . their anti reg policy thrives. first there was rake increase , then big cut on rb every year , now their new model is banning regs. I am another victim of their unfair freeze/ban system for spin players . Allthough i am not active at 2p2 many people playing sngs back when full tilt was up will recognize me especially old pokerstrategy members.

I was playing for 5 years on fulltilt then after their closure i continued on stars . So i was a customer for like 10 years on stars or so. My reward for that loyality was a frozen account . Despite answering everything (they asked even to made a video) after 2 months of not giving an answer, only when i mailed em that they have to answer me whats going on with my account or i ll file a complaint to their regulator i got my answer the same day with a ban . They of course stole all the money(confiscated to be given back to players , i wonder if any player got anything from all the bans they did) and their excuse was that i violated their tos and when i asked which tos i violated their response was "We have forwarded your query to the team responsible for handling this matter. You will receive a reply as soon as possible." that was 2 months ago and of course they never answered.

My acc was duncan,gr mostly playing 30s on avg having more than 40k spins running under ev for like 400k+ in chips , i guess if i was a smartspin member that would be the other way around but we are not here to discuss how stars favours smartspin

I'm with Smartspin and I'm over 200 buyins below ev the last 3 months. I guess I haven't been upgraded to sun run status yet.

This whole Stars favours one group over another is ridiculous.

And i can confirm than in the period of 3 years playing spins i never heard a reg getting refunded anything. also what about the money took from ppl that were banned without ps sending any proof or saying the reason? At least before amaya when someone was accused for something ps was pointing exactly which rule of the tos was violated. Nowdays ps is more like a casino that bans winners who win big time vs fish and destroy the revenue of stars.