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03-03-2014 , 07:56 AM
Hi, i ran into these hands today:

1- it as the 3 hand of the game, villain bet all previous hands iirc, im i getting it in too lightly?

    Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #24247621

    Hero (SB): 1,500 (75 bb)
    BB: 1,500 (75 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q 6
    Hero raises to 40, BB raises to 120, Hero calls 80

    Flop: (240) 5 4 6 (2 players)
    BB bets 140, Hero raises to 1,380 and is all-in, BB calls 1,240 and is all-in

    Turn: (3,000) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (3,000) 2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    2-how many value are we losing here by checking back on the river? or is it the tigth play?

    [converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $6.71 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #24247641

    BB: 1,225 (24.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): 1,775 (35.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with J J
    Hero completes, BB checks

    Flop: (100) 7 4 3 (2 players)
    BB bets 50, Hero calls 50

    Turn: (200) A (2 players)
    BB bets 200, Hero calls 200

    River: (600) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks




    thanks
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    03-03-2014 , 03:01 PM
    First hand I just 3bet and don't shove or even call. You don't really get that much value from the shove. He 3bet pre so he easily can have higher pocketpairs and I don't think he will call a shove that deep with just A or K high.

    Second hand I don't like limping that deep with JJ. I just minraise pre. I don't think he checks that many Ax behind and 3 is only a part of his range. I would probably make a really small riverbet.
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    03-04-2014 , 10:18 AM
    1st hand, 3bet on the flop a like i think 2.5x is perfect

    2nd hand, raise pre, as played, i think I would raise on the flop, something like 2.5x to keep his GS and crap in, it's a bit player dependent calling or raising, like if he donks in limped pots alot or in general we would wanna call to keep his air in. Turn as played calling is cool. River I like a small bet, something like 160-200, we plan on folding this if he raise, it's a really thin value spot considering we don't know anything about if he bluff raises our bet since we kind of induce with that sizing. So the small river bet is a bit player dependent but should work against a big majority of players.
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    03-05-2014 , 09:53 AM
    I think the shove on the flop is fine there's nearly 400 in the pot, raise is also fine but I dont mind the shove at all.

    Deffo the second hand, raise min pre with JJ, I dont know whether you will be called by much worse on the river.. 7x or perhaps crying call with 4x is possible but you don't necessarily want to open yourself up to getting CR on river so think check behind is fine.
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