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04-22-2013 , 04:37 PM

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centurion

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35 hands 50% open, 100% cbet, Agression:4.0

Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17136041

SB: 420 (21 bb)
Hero (BB): 580 (29 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7

SB raises to 60, Hero calls 40

Flop: (120) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets 60, Hero raises to 150, SB raises to 360 and is all-in, Hero folds

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call? against whole 50% open range it is, but is this a good estimation?
how can i calc my equity against range (suited cards + oder combos) is this possible in Equilab or what program is best for that?

thanks!

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04-22-2013 , 05:33 PM

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centurion

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eh dumb post, i can see that it's easy call even against top of the range, anyway would like to here how would you play?

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04-23-2013 , 04:39 AM

LexerZz

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 185

Fold pre imo

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04-24-2013 , 05:39 PM

ferris.shrugged

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I think your line is definitely good. I think it's a reasonably good board and a very good holding for checkraising against a tight opener+wide cbettor and the shove is obviously a snapcall.

I guess we should be asking if a c/c is more profitable here, though. And what part of our range should we be c/c'ing and what part works better with c/r. (and, honestly, I really don't know what the best way to think about this is).

But I do feel that c/r'ing air with these reads is going to be profitable with ATC on this board

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04-25-2013 , 02:12 AM

PushUp

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 70

What's his range 3xing ? Here, readless i would consider his range beeing overpair, flush draw, set or 2 over cards. I don't see alot of 9x 3xing. Since there are more over cards and flush draws in his range i would snap call. Also, fold pre if he's rarely 3xing.

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04-25-2013 , 06:17 AM

Fran

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You played everything good... I would raise the flop little less- like 130..

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04-25-2013 , 10:15 AM

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centurion

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ok, thanks!

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04-25-2013 , 11:08 AM

IPLAYUPAY

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Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,108

whats the point of raising/folding flop with 20 blinnds eff ?either raise/get it in or flat and shove blank turns...

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04-25-2013 , 11:21 AM

crazyriver

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,732

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Originally Posted by ++++

35 hands 50% open, 100% cbet, Agression:4.0

call? against whole 50% open range it is, but is this a good estimation?
how can i calc my equity against range (suited cards + oder combos) is this possible in Equilab or what program is best for that?

thanks!

Don't think you can ever fold there once you decide to c/r.

Yes, Equilab is pretty good for that.
Was he opening 3x with all those 50%?

We need 210/840=25% equity to call his jam.

Even assuming he has only uber tight range (because his 3x range weighs to nearly only nuts, which is never true imo) like this:

99+,77,44,A9s,A7s,K9s,AsKs,AsQs,KsQs,AsJs,KsJs,QsJ s,AsTs,KsTs,QsTs,JsTs,As8s,As6s,As5s,As4s,As3s,As2 s,A9o,A7o,K9o

we still got more than 25% and it's a call.

I'd play it the same. With different c/r sizing though.

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04-25-2013 , 03:48 PM

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centurion

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Originally Posted by crazyriver

how did i forgot to mention, yes he was 3x all the time.

yes i can see r/f was terrible.

how much would you raise? why to look more strong? once we raise we are almost comited aren't we?

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04-25-2013 , 03:51 PM

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yay

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if he 3x all the time 3b shove pre

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04-26-2013 , 02:14 AM

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crazyriver

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Originally Posted by ++++

how did i forgot to mention, yes he was 3x all the time.

yes i can see r/f was terrible.

how much would you raise? why to look more strong? once we raise we are almost comited aren't we?

Not sure. Something seems strange with this sizing. I'd either ship or c/r smaller to represent a draw and let him spazz. Because of the board volatility I think villain will see too many draws in our range and fairly often gii with A high or something.

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Originally Posted by yay

if he 3x all the time 3b shove pre

3BS is EV- here, if we assume around 50% opr and him calling with around top 25%.
My guess is you didn't notice that it's all the time out of 50%.

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04-26-2013 , 02:26 AM

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centurion

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ok, thanks a lot!

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04-26-2013 , 03:06 AM

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yay

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Originally Posted by crazyriver

My guess is you didn't notice that it's all the time out of 50%.

i assumed all the time = he just 3x every button

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04-26-2013 , 03:23 AM

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centurion

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Originally Posted by yay

i assumed all the time = he just 3x every button

35 hands 50% open, 100% cbet, Agression:4.0

open from SB

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