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7ht - jam or fold? 7ht - jam or fold?

04-16-2013 , 04:40 PM
10 hands, 3 limps first raise, call raise 4/5 so likelly to be on a pasive side

    Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #17046761

    Hero (BB): 680 (22.7 bb)
    SB: 320 (10.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 A
    SB raises to 60, Hero raises to 680 and is all-in, SB calls 260 and is all-in

    Flop: (640) 6 3 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (640) 8 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (640) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 640 pot
    Final Board: 6 3 4 8 K
    Hero showed 2 A and lost (-320 net)
    SB showed Q Q and won 640 (320 net)



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    is this enough of a read to fold? i know it is even easy nash jam, but stil wonder when would it be better to pass and wait for better spot?

    thanks
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    04-16-2013 , 05:58 PM
    I have trouble getting a feel for when to make adjustments based on hud stats and think I tend to overadjust on too little information. But I really think that we do not have nearly enough reads here to think that A2o will be a bad fold. Getting 10 limp or flat hands in a row isn't massively unlikely.
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    04-16-2013 , 06:45 PM
    never folding
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    04-16-2013 , 08:38 PM
    It's a two-part question.

    1. What would his opening range need to be for folding to be better?
    2. Is it a reasonable assumption that he has the opening range?

    Part 1 you should learn how to do on your own, particularly if you like the numbers aspect of poker. Post if you have questions about how to come up with 1.

    Part 2 is a bit more of an experience question, understanding the range of villains and all tendencies you will see/people's actual longterm tendencies. The answer to it is going to be "no". But I'd recommend getting after Part 1 so that it becomes easier to think about these types of questions as you go forward.
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    04-17-2013 , 04:29 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mersenneary
    1. What would his opening range need to be for folding to be better?
    OP, you may find this useful if you dont already have it:

    http://www.husng.com/content/free-so...ity-calculator
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    04-17-2013 , 04:57 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ferris.shrugged
    I have trouble getting a feel for when to make adjustments based on hud stats and think I tend to overadjust on too little information. But I really think that we do not have nearly enough reads here to think that A2o will be a bad fold. Getting 10 limp or flat hands in a row isn't massively unlikely.
    same here and since on this limits it's mostly playing randoms which decline after one match, it's hard to get decent sample.

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by mersenneary
    It's a two-part question.

    1. What would his opening range need to be for folding to be better?
    2. Is it a reasonable assumption that he has the opening range?

    Part 1 you should learn how to do on your own, particularly if you like the numbers aspect of poker. Post if you have questions about how to come up with 1.

    Part 2 is a bit more of an experience question, understanding the range of villains and all tendencies you will see/people's actual longterm tendencies. The answer to it is going to be "no". But I'd recommend getting after Part 1 so that it becomes easier to think about these types of questions as you go forward.
    please explain how could i calculate this, i would love to learn this. This is what i am most interested in. I know i should call, but i can't explain or calculate why?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 0bl1ky
    OP, you may find this useful if you dont already have it:

    http://www.husng.com/content/free-so...ity-calculator
    i have this, thanks.
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