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01-10-2013 , 04:27 PM

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centurion

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Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15332461

Hero (SB): 560 (18.7 bb)
BB: 440 (14.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with T

Hero raises to 60, BB raises to 180, Hero folds

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villain seemed fishy, limped most of the time, 4x couple of times...
do you call readless?

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01-10-2013 , 05:53 PM

LeProtagonist

adept

Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 1,052

Fold. If he limps and 4x's then one can only assume that big sizing = strong hand. Also you aren't really readless :P

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01-11-2013 , 03:43 AM

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centurion

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 163

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Originally Posted by LeProtagonist

Fold. If he limps and 4x's then one can only assume that big sizing = strong hand. Also you aren't really readless :P

thanks, i meant if we also fold if we are readless?
what range do you call this deep, that size probablly is basically same as shove or even stronger?

is A2-A8 here good to 4bet?

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01-11-2013 , 03:47 AM

Wisher

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 602

I would shove A8 here but that's the bottom.
I've seen people at the $7s which would do this and then fold to an all-in 3bet ... although not a lot of those.
This raise is as good as a stack-off since we def will be stacking off on the flop.
Villain has 260 chips left in a 360 chips pot ... so what they are doing is a go-and-go pretty much.

Would flat only with premiums.

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01-11-2013 , 04:06 AM

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centurion

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^ i think the same way, but stil why make it such a strange size other than to induce? or not knowing what you are doing? but yea it's 7$...

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01-11-2013 , 05:42 AM

earlygrave

centurion

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What would you guys do here w KJo-KQo?

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01-11-2013 , 06:39 AM

Benjamin the Donk

old hand

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,254

Depends on how many other times villain had 3bet and to what sizes.
I think I can call a shove with both hands at this stack depth so would probably 4b shove.
I don't see much merit in flatting as villain can donk and put you in a bad spot with a ****ty SPR.

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01-11-2013 , 07:35 AM

Wisher

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 602

SPR?

Other than that - I am jamming KJ and KQ here when shallow and can sometimes find a fold button if we are at the start of the match (20-25bb deep).

Again, KK and AA, I am just calling and then calling or jamming flop depending on villain's play.
That is just because I have seen people fold to a 4bet when 3betting to such sizes and I want their money as well.

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01-11-2013 , 09:16 AM

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centurion

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Originally Posted by earlygrave

What would you guys do here w KJo-KQo?

i think it'a a clear shove.

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