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03-14-2013 , 05:36 PM
2nd hand




    Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16492091

    SB: 440 (22 bb)
    Hero (BB): 560 (28 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 Q
    SB raises to 40, Hero calls 20

    Flop: (80) K Q 5 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 60, Hero raises to 120, SB calls 60

    Turn: (320) 6 (2 players)
    Hero bets 120, SB calls 120

    River: (560) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets 280 and is all-in, SB calls 160 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: 880 pot
    Final Board: K Q 5 6 9
    SB showed 8 7 and won 880 (440 net)
    Hero showed 5 Q and lost (-440 net)



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    i wanted to keep him in and queeze most out of him, and i got what i wanted,

    how much to bet on turn standard 1/2 pot? do you cr 3x on flop?
    thanks
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    03-14-2013 , 05:55 PM
    imo xraise bigger flop ~150, jam turn
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    03-14-2013 , 07:26 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by none888
    imo xraise bigger flop ~150, jam turn
    +1.

    You aren't putting them in a position to make a mistake with your flop sizing.
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    03-14-2013 , 07:31 PM
    Is this a standard pre-flop call? I have been folding these pre.

    As played, the flop has lots of draws so if you are going for the c/r then make it larger. If he has a flush draw or str8 he is getting 4-1 to call here.

    I reading a post from the archives about leading out on flops.. this could actually be quite a good place to lead the flop. It stops him taking a free card and if he raises you then its an easy ship. Would like others thoughts on this.

    On the turn again i bet more here to charge draws, at least 150 or 160.
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    03-15-2013 , 02:23 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by LeProtagonist
    +1.

    You aren't putting them in a position to make a mistake with your flop sizing.
    i get that, click back is totally silly, but 150 still gives him good odds and would be a correct call with Q6+ ?am i wrong?
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    03-15-2013 , 02:29 PM
    The flop is kind of wet and the same range that call small raise will call bigger size.
    also i think with bigger size to 140-150 you can rep more draws than the small size.
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    03-15-2013 , 02:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by 0bl1ky
    Is this a standard pre-flop call? I have been folding these pre.

    As played, the flop has lots of draws so if you are going for the c/r then make it larger. If he has a flush draw or str8 he is getting 4-1 to call here.

    I reading a post from the archives about leading out on flops.. this could actually be quite a good place to lead the flop. It stops him taking a free card and if he raises you then its an easy ship. Would like others thoughts on this.

    On the turn again i bet more here to charge draws, at least 150 or 160.

    yeah,im folding Q4o.

    imo c\r is better than lead,villian prob cbet all his range on this flop and players play pretty much fit or fold oop on this flop.
    I guess lead here with air is better than with value.
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    03-15-2013 , 03:55 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by none888
    imo xraise bigger flop ~150, jam turn
    +1 and for me it is a fold pre but I´m a nit
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    03-15-2013 , 05:09 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Orsulab3rt
    yeah,im folding Q4o.

    imo c\r is better than lead,villian prob cbet all his range on this flop and players play pretty much fit or fold oop on this flop.
    I guess lead here with air is better than with value.
    +1

    thanks guys!
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    03-15-2013 , 09:01 PM
    you should be making it 160 from a 60bet and then jam the turn imo.

    also i dont think q5o is ever a call oop.
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    03-15-2013 , 10:16 PM
    What none said

    and not folding pre
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