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07-14-2012 , 02:09 AM

$$$

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saw flop

SB (t420)
Hero (BB) (t580)

Hero's M: 19.33

Preflop: Hero is BB with J

, 7

SB bets t40, Hero calls t20

Flop: (t80) 5

, J

, 10

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t200) 4

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t150, Hero calls t150

River: (t500) A

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets t170 (All-In), Hero ???

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07-14-2012 , 02:21 AM

Feel

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 245

check raise the flop(to gain info for turn and river play) or check call the flop(pot control) and lead the turn 1/2 or 3/4 pot(for info).

leading the turn does 1 of 2 things

1. gets villain to possibly fold all their air.
2. you are betting for value as you have TP, allows villain to chase if indeed they are behind.

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07-14-2012 , 02:59 AM

donjonnie

McSeafield Survivor

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c/r flop, shove turn

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07-14-2012 , 03:57 AM

Benjamin the Donk

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Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 1,254

I think check call the flop is fine, maybe check raise if there's flush and straight draw possibilities. I can see the merit of a check raise as the board is semi-wet, but I don't **** my pants over that board personally.
Definitely check raising the turn though, would lead for value if villain shuts down on the turn though, don't want to risk a free river.
As played I call here, you just got unlucky if villain was barrelling ace high on the flop and turn
Disclaimer: still a fish

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07-15-2012 , 06:45 AM

$$$

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Yeah I see that x/r is so much better on turn than call.

But while playing I actually timebank called the turn and was really thinking about folding the turn.
Like what does he really rep with this line.
Usually the 7dol players are really basic thinking so he sees that a lot more draws after turn so he must bet big for value. And nobody really bets 60 into 80 with a bluff nowadays.

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07-15-2012 , 09:42 AM

donjonnie

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you absolutely can not c/c your top pair on this flop and c/f the turn and the way stacks look like on the turn i think you have to shove, i still prefer to c/r get it in on the flop.
all the 2 broadway hands have a bunc of quity on you and having villian barrel a k or basicly every overcard and 9 on the turn would really suck.

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07-15-2012 , 12:21 PM

storyteller

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Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 17

I also think c-r flop is the best option.

If SB is aggresive i like to just click it back to induce a bluff or a push from some draw, second or bottom pair.

If he´s somewhat of a callingstation size ure c-r on the flop so u can just ship the turn no mather what card hits or just ship over his c-bet on the flop.

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07-16-2012 , 02:01 AM

l'enfant

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x/r flop and jam turn or x/jam flop.

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07-16-2012 , 01:36 PM

mrbambocha

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his seising is bigger then normal, so its weird to cr, maybe to 135 then and jam turn just to keep his bluffs and draws in since we have a blocker to his 98.

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07-16-2012 , 05:01 PM

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Atomfred

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I think you can flat flop againsrlt this sizing. Still xrais and bet bet is better against most villains.

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03-11-2013 , 12:11 PM

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snoep

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You should give him the last choice. SHOVE THE TURN!

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03-11-2013 , 02:44 PM

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The Game

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xj turn

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