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05-02-2014 , 07:00 AM
villain was pretty tight IP mr 11% 23% limps
Is the passive line against this villain good or should I maybe donk the turn because he checks often behind?
c/r is maybe to strong, dont believe that this guy bluff a lot but this would kill the action...


    Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
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    SB: 380 (19 bb)
    Hero (BB): 620 (31 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 6 8
    SB raises to 40, Hero calls 20

    Flop: (80) 6 J 8 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 60, Hero calls 60

    Turn: (200) 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 100, Hero calls 100

    River: (400) J (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 180 and is all-in, Hero

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    05-02-2014 , 08:07 AM
    Is he a station? If so I would tend to donk out. If he both folds/checks behind a lot then checking is better imo.

    Did you get stacked by trips?
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    05-02-2014 , 09:12 AM
    x/r flop jam turn, ez game
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    05-02-2014 , 09:25 AM
    He wasnt a station but very tight preflop IP.
    If there is a flop like J97 yea I would c/r here. but ons this board?
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    05-02-2014 , 10:36 AM
    I would donk turn for under half pot, allows him to spaz out on bluffs and also may still float AK AQ which might check back turn.
    Given the way you played it river is pretty sick given his jam, nut worst card for him to bluff at. he's probs never betting overpairs here, so he's polarized to air and jacks, and I think there are enough jacks in his range, and given how bad the J is to bluff, to make this a fold

    Last edited by you spud; 05-02-2014 at 10:41 AM.
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    05-02-2014 , 12:03 PM
    We're counterfeited. Even 99/TT beats us here.

    Super sick, but easy river fold.

    Rest of the hand is ok if he's aggro postflop. A nit is going to have a strong density of overpairs and Jx here that outnumbers sets. However, with 19bb eff facing an 11% opening range I just fold pre -- my money vs this guy is made stealing pots and this is a bad spot to attempt it.

    Last edited by Aleksei; 05-02-2014 at 12:09 PM.
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    05-02-2014 , 12:04 PM
    I would consider folding the river too given that this guy seems tight passive. Calling is probably optimal vs an unknown but given our read I would fold.

    Against a good player this could be a hand like A8 because 1. it's pretty hard for you to have a J here 2. This is a terrible card to bluff at which means you put him on nuts/air and therefore probably will call 3. it beats all your bluff catchers. Mr tight passive is not a good player. I would give him credit for trips.

    A thinking player might also take this line with a hand like QdTd or some other hand with three to a flush three to a straight + an over as well. Then you might get into a leveling game on the river if you're both out to exploit each other.
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    05-02-2014 , 12:09 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by you spud
    he's probs never betting overpairs here
    So what's his play with overpairs on the river?
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    05-02-2014 , 12:34 PM
    A tight passive guy like this probably does play overpairs this way. The only problem is we don't beat overpairs i.e. QQ has two pair Qs and Js vs our two pair 8s and Js.
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    05-02-2014 , 01:59 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by crazyriver
    So what's his play with overpairs on the river?
    I believe he checks back his over pairs on the river because, given his stats, he seems like a nit.
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    05-02-2014 , 02:41 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yay
    x/r flop jam turn, ez game
    Best line to take in this spot imo. As played sigh call otr.
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    05-02-2014 , 02:48 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yay
    x/r flop jam turn, ez game
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hidequick
    Best line to take in this spot imo. As played sigh call otr.
    Could you elaborate on this, in my opinion we lose all his bluff range that can catch up/spaz out on later streets... We can get value from overpairs and Jx on later streets anyway. Not doubting yay for a second (fanboy of his thread), just would like some reasoning
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    05-02-2014 , 03:12 PM
    hes pretty tight IP, which includes alot of hands he will call a x/r on flop but you won't get value from when you x/c. vs toprange it wont matter, you will gii on almost all runouts anyway
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    05-02-2014 , 03:15 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yay
    hes pretty tight IP, which includes alot of hands he will call a x/r on flop but you won't get value from when you x/c. vs toprange it wont matter, you will gii on almost all runouts anyway
    Okay, so what sort of hands do you think would call a x/r on flop but fold to a small donk on turn for example.
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