PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 7 Tournament, 10/20 Blinds (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (BB) (t460)
SB (t540)

Hero's M: 15.33

Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, A
SB calls t10, Hero bets t60, SB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 8, 10, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets t75, SB calls t75

Turn: (t270) Q (2 players)
Hero ???,

barrel

+1.

Lots of draws in villain's range given the limp pre. Don't give free cards.

Barrel how much? If shoved then snapcall?

Bet/fold and Check the river

Meh I don't like firing here, many of his straight draws improved on this turn.

By many I'm assuming you meant 9J.

Potentially QJ/Q9/JsXs/QsXs/9sXs as well. And aside from that his hands that haven't improved may now be more inclined to make a move since we shouldn't have a bunch of Qx in our range and 8x/Tx is tricky to play vs a raise on this card in a limped pot without an aggro dynamic and we do have a bunch of draws in our range that he can fold

All that said, limped pot, 7s I think its a pretty clear barrel for value as you're going to get called by so many worse hands and bluffed so infrequently

c f

Why? explain plz
if hero cbet 50-60 its change your turn decision?

am i the only one shoving pre

Is A8 not a little too strong and playable to be jamming over a limp at this depth? Vs some opponents I'm sure its optimal, but vs a weaker fishier opponent who will be pretty fit or fold I can't imagine its better than 3xing and seeing a flop.

I think Yay has a point, but imo stacks are a bit deep to shove over a limp. Would definitely shove over a min raise though.
I'm not sure if the 20 chips you pick up for each fold is worth it every time you are called, as a lot of aces that beat you will call. I am probably assuming villain limps to trap a lot, which may or may not be accurate at these stakes (I think it may though)

If villain limps 100% only calls with hands that have you dominated and TT+:

According to Equilab, TT+, A9+ is 8.3% of hands. This means you will be called ~1 in every 12 hands. You have 27% equity vs this range.

So 92% of the time you get folds and pick up 20 chips, 8% of the time you get called and are a dog. You end up with 460 * 0.27 = 124 chips on average, which means you lose
460 - 124 = 336 chips.

So (0.92 * 20) + (0.08 * -336) = -8.5 chips on average.

This is the first time I've tried to work something like this out by hand, so someone correct me if it's wrong. I realise I've taken some liberties with villains limping and calling ranges and that different ranges will results in different results. If villain limps a lower percentage of hands and still calls with the range above I think a shove will become profitable fairly quickly.

So long story short, I prefer raising and playing post flop. Especially if you think you have an edge, which is likely at 7's.