Ez fold?


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 7 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop

Hero (SB) (t685)
BB (t315)

Hero's M: 15.22

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8, 6
Hero bets t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 5, 8, J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB raises to t180, Hero ???,

I play similar stakes to you so not an expert

You're 10.5 bb deep, that hand is a good candidate to limp pre flop imo, unless if you have reads that villain is tight OOP or plays fit or fold post flop when short.

I think I would check back on that flop and bluff catch turn leads, planning on calling off all my chips on pretty much any turn (and river if barrelled). Maybe fold running clubs, 9 or T.
As played I think you have to fold as these non all in bets are usually pretty strong. I think I would be more inclined to call a shove honestly, but I don't think many villains shove draws at these stakes so you could be behind then too.

Sorry for the vague answer, I'm trying to get my head around this sort of stuff too.

As a suggestion maybe next time try a hh converter that shows effective stacks in big blinds instead of M. It's more useful for HU play as everyone is uses it. I'm not sure what websites are good though, I use PT4.

Well, you're 10.5bb deep, draw heavy flop and you have too much equity to fold, and villain can't really c/r to this size and ever fold so jamming over is best. Checking back and bluffcatching is on the nitty passive side imo, the board is pretty wet and giving away free cards is not something we want to be doing, making a pair on this board is pretty sick at 10.5bb so I'm stoked to be getting it in.

Checking the flop is prolly slightly better, but you can't fold to a jam if you bet

agree.
thing is, we cant call when are a bit deeper cause we got poor equity against the draws+madehands and this is not a flop were we get raise/folds a lot.

so my question is, how many bb is max for us to play bet/broke on this flop?
15? 17? 20?

He likely will not play jam/fold above 15bbs, and c/r ranges will vary from player to player, so no easy solution

yeah true