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07-22-2013 , 12:13 PM
Hi,

How do u play this hand readless?





    Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 500 (25 bb)
    Hero (BB): 500 (25 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K J
    SB raises to 40, Hero raises to 100, SB calls 60

    Flop: (200) 4 4 5 (2 players)
    Hero bets 80, SB calls 80

    Turn: (360) 9 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB bets 180, Hero raises to 320 and is all-in, SB folds

    7$ HT KJs Quote
    07-22-2013 , 12:51 PM
    Readless I do literally everything you didn't.

    I don't 3bet KJs without reads. (but it's pretty close) If I were to 3bet it I'd make it bigger - like t120.

    After not having 3bet I'd c/r flop big and jam all turns.


    As played I think I'd bet/call the turn. Then mark the hand down as something I needed to review :P

    I think we should be expecting most of the HT population the check behind on this turn if we check it, and then we're left guessing how to play any river that we don't hit.

    This might be an okay spot to induce against someone we believe will spazz out to our weakness. So (without having number crunched it) I think that this is a sick-cool line to take if we have a "spazzes out in raggy 3bet pots" read on a player.
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    07-22-2013 , 01:21 PM
    Okay so I mashed some estimates into CREV and it turns out that if we assume that our opponent is a spazz then shoving the turn and checkraising all-in have very similar expectations, but that CRAI is slightly better, and gets better the bigger the spastic our opponent is.


    So unsurprisingly the result is that we make more money when our opponent is ****.

    I'm surprised that the EV of both lines turned out so similar, though. (+296 for jamming turn, +305 for CRAI)
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    07-22-2013 , 07:19 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by ferris.shrugged
    Okay so I mashed some estimates into CREV and it turns out that if we assume that our opponent is a spazz then shoving the turn and checkraising all-in have very similar expectations, but that CRAI is slightly better, and gets better the bigger the spastic our opponent is.


    So unsurprisingly the result is that we make more money when our opponent is ****.

    I'm surprised that the EV of both lines turned out so similar, though. (+296 for jamming turn, +305 for CRAI)
    I have absolutely no idea about your ev calcs but its just a matter of our opponent. If we assume villain floats a lot on the flop(which we can to be honest) check-raising turn gets so much better than shoving it imo. And 3betting nai KJs cannot be that big of a mistake.

    The hand is played fine what I can say on my part.
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    07-23-2013 , 02:43 AM
    Bet turn readless. If you know he is floaty I kinda like your line but readless I would just bet turn.
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