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12-17-2012 , 05:20 PM
not much reads 7th hand, he raised every button so far...

    Poker Stars, $6.85 Buy-in (10/20 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15035371

    SB: 480 (24 bb)
    Hero (BB): 520 (26 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with K 9
    SB raises to 40, Hero calls 20

    Flop: (80) K A 3 (2 players)
    Hero checks, SB checks

    Turn: (80) 9 (2 players)
    Hero bets 60, SB calls 60

    River: (200) 2 (2 players)
    Hero bets 150, SB raises to 320, Hero calls 170




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    is river easy fold? i bet bigger to induce a call, am i wrong?

    Last edited by ++++; 12-17-2012 at 05:33 PM.
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    12-17-2012 , 05:45 PM
    I think villain's river betsizing screams valuebet. Dunno what hand the villain actually had, but I'm gonna guess that villain had something small and suited that he checked behind. (Or AA/KK/AK, idk). I think he's not repping anything that you beat. Maybe I'm a stationy fish though; I don't think I could ever fold in that spot. Odds are too good to fold, even if that's blatantly the villain's intention
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    12-17-2012 , 08:41 PM
    Super easy call imo
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    12-17-2012 , 10:29 PM
    We can't really make too many assumptions about Villain's c-betting tendencies, so he can easily get to this river with a ton of air. On the other hand, you're not actually beat here by pretty much any standardly-played hand -- he has to have done something at least a little weird/bad to get here with a hand that beats you.

    So, he almost certainly gets to the river with way more air than value-raisable hands. Combine that with the fact that he's giving you really good pot odds so that he can only get away with bluffraising very little before you have a profitable call, and it's really easy for Villain to bluffraising here "too much".

    Additionally, even if he did have a properly balanced raising range, you'd still probably have a clear call since you could easily be ahead of some of his value raises.
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    12-18-2012 , 04:15 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by yaqh
    We can't really make too many assumptions about Villain's c-betting tendencies, so he can easily get to this river with a ton of air. On the other hand, you're not actually beat here by pretty much any standardly-played hand -- he has to have done something at least a little weird/bad to get here with a hand that beats you.

    So, he almost certainly gets to the river with way more air than value-raisable hands. Combine that with the fact that he's giving you really good pot odds so that he can only get away with bluffraising very little before you have a profitable call, and it's really easy for Villain to bluffraising here "too much".

    Additionally, even if he did have a properly balanced raising range, you'd still probably have a clear call since you could easily be ahead of some of his value raises.
    i think same way, but of course it's hard to expect something certain from standard 7$ player. Sure he showed up with flush...
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    12-21-2012 , 11:25 PM
    Pretty standard call for me too.

    But I have to say something about your river bet. I think the sizing is not appropriate for the scenario. He cbets and check back turn. On the river I think he most likely has a marginal weak hand or sometimes he is nuts like now. I exclude most Ax one pair type of hands because I expect a turn bet, hands that you rely on the most to call your river 3/4 bet. So in this case I think that a little under 50% of the pot is very good. 80 in 200 rather than 150 in 200 because he can call with more weak hands and raise bluffs too. I think he rarely calls there 150. He is usually folding as played.
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