Villain is hyper-aggro when he plays a hand. He believes if he sees a flop, the pot belongs to him. He sees almost all flops facing a min-bet from SB. I had him at a 2:1 chip advantage a few hands before, and he sucked out on me.

Blinds 40/20

Villain $2160: SB raises to $80
Hero J10 $840: BB calls

Flop $160 537

Hero checks looking to c/r, Villain bets $40, Hero raises to $200, Villain raises to $360, Hero raises to 760 AI

I wanted to be all in with 2 overs + flush & r-rnr straight draws but his 3 bet made me feel Jacks & 10's were no longer live outs, but having this much invested is there any other option on the flop? Advice PF & Post appreciated.

super std. dont level yourself too much, besides even if you know for a fact that you only have flush outs, its still a call given the pot odds.

btw if he would have cbeted bigger i would just c/shove flop.

i think you get max FE by raising closer to 250-300 getting it in is obviously fine, alot of the time one or both your overcards are good.

yer with your hand i think a bigger raise is better as it increases you ev when you call his jam. yer his 3bet is really horrible but you just can't fold now just get it in and hope you have 40%

This doesn't make much sense, as we were not going to fold no matter what.

Thoughts on lead/3bet vs an aggro monkey?


How so? Surely raising bigger won't increase villain's bluffing range.

but we maximize our FE and protect ourselves from villain flatting and having a stupid spot ott.

basically what ohly said with a few more things.

i actually thought we were a little deeper than we are so its not a massive thing but still helps. as is if we get flatted its a 560 jam into 560 which is obv good but i think we can make it 235 and be fine jamming 525 into 630 (actually my math might be a little off but you get the point)

also when villain does jam we need
(560 / (160 + 200 + 760 + 560) * 100 = 33.3% equity to BE

but if we make it 235 we need
(525 / (160 + 235 + 760 + 525) * 100 = 31.25% equity to BE

now you might point out its going to be hard for us to have less than that, true but that extra 2.05% adds directly into chips gained which is obv good in the long run.

so combine points 1 and 2 and you see a bigger raise is often better (would have been even nicer if hero had like 980 as it make this kind of thought process even better)

Yeah, what Ohly said is true. Yet, I still don't get the "we set up the stack size so that we can call his jam more profitably" logic, it's just nonsense especially with our actual hand. Take this example: you have 98o on KQ3r board and c/r to 999 with only 1 chips behind. Well, if he jams for only 1 more chip, you have an easy call when he jams and the play is +EV.

Really?

In this hand, a bigger raise is better because of the added FE, not because of the reason you mentioned. We don't mind him jamming on top of our raise, but we don't mind him just folding either. Thus, speaking of the EV when we call his jam is a bit off imo.

absolutely true mela, we shouldn't raise an amount high enough to price ourselves in, if this is necessary, raising is often not the best choice with a hand with good equity.

also raising bigger makes villain's range tighter in most scenarios, so while the equity we need is reduced, the equity we have is also smaller, dimishing the effect we wanted our bigger sizing to have.

Given villain's min bet I just call and see a turn. It also has the benefit of letting him spew when we hit.