(1) 400 eff. stack, hypers...

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 J
Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80) 4 3 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero raises 50, BB goes all-in, Hero ??
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(2) 1200 eff. stack, turbos...

Preflop: Hero is BB with J T
SB raises 150, Hero calls 100

Flop: (300) K 9 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB raises 280, Hero ??
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(3) 400 eff. stack, hypers...

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 3
Hero raises to 40, BB calls 20

Flop: (80) 4 6 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero raises 40, BB goes all-in, Hero ??
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Basically, trying to gauge what different folks do with fl. draws and OESDs on the flop when you know villain is strong. Can you ever fold here? why? why not?

1) call
2) sigh fold
3) fold

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edit: actually not sure about hand 1, depends on villain, if i think there's a good chance he's shoving Kx i fold.

Aren't first and third hands strictly maths connected? Bunza, you're the big boy, you can figure it out yourself. Just put opponents' ranges to equilab/stove/whatever and see whether you got the odds.

As for the 2nd, you can only shove if you believe you have at least some of fold equity, which may not be the case. Otherwise it's snap fold.

LOL, yeah, I've done the calculations (I'm wearing my big boy pants!) and they all support what I do and what you guys all mention here. Everything's good. We're on the same page. Here's the issue...

...when I rail some solid upper mid-stakes regs (to take notes before playing them), I see them take on fish (or readless opponents) and consistently CALL 1&3 and jam 2, often instacalls or instajams. Just curious why they are READLESS playing what I think we can all agree is somewhat reckless and spewy...hmm...

can't really comment on hypers cuz im a fish at those, but hand 1 i'm calling, hand 2 i'd need reads, but if hes really strong its just math, i think its a fold (didn't do it), and hand 3 if its close again but i'm folding.

I'm interested by why ppl play their flushs so fast, even when some reads could suggest were behind his range. FE?

call 1 and probably call 3, 2 is very villain dependant