Poker Stars $6.00+$0.25 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t1640 82 BBs
BTN/SB: t1360 68 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 8 A
BTN/SB raises to t40, Hero raises to t120, BTN/SB calls t80

Flop: (t240) A 6 2 (2 players)
Hero bets t120, BTN/SB raises to t320, Hero calls t200

Turn: (t880) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t520, Hero folds



This hand has been haunting me the past day. 14 hands into the match, villain doesn't seem to have gotten out of line and he hasn't called or raised my cbet a single time so far. I have not been particularly aggro with 3bets pre.

Is this a good example of why it's typically better to flat with small/medium aces pre, and 3bet like JTs hands instead?

Is it way too nitty to fold after we get raised on the flop? I thought the villain could just be getting a bit frustrated with me or not giving me credit for the ace, but his turn bet is just so value-y....


Any thoughts?

(just reading the title I wrote, I expect it's probably going to be a trivial fold? But damn, we has an ace )

Dunno why but I don't like the c-bet size and then calling, or even c-betting at all(?)

As played I guess fold...

flat pre

dont 3bet this pre
as played, call his flop raise and ch/r allin this turn

I don't really like 3betting this pre but I don't think it's horrible.

As played I'm folding to the flop raise against straightforward villain

Thanks a bunch for the replies, guys.

14 hands, people. Come on at the reads exaggeration. A big lol at bet/folding this flop. 3bet pre is fine.

Why are you suggesting this line (after a 3 bet pre)? Everything indicates villain is strong, calling a 3 bet pre, raising an A high board and barreling a blank turn. I wouldn't take that line, but i'm not saying it's wrong, just want to know the reasoning.

Flatting pre seems better to me because it keeps his range wide and we can tarp him when we hit the ace. Although we're not feeling so good when a "seemingly straightforward" villain double/triple barrels this board (assuming we c/c flop).

What's the worst ace you would 3bet pre in this spot? I probably don't normally 3bet A8o but I figured this is sooted and we have some more equity and more flops that we like....

Basically you're saying that 14 hands worth of reads is not enough to fold an ace here? Even after we 3bet pre and he defends (I think this was the first time he defended against the 3bet pre)?


I kind of like the turn crai in principle but I don't think he folds many aces that beat us.... He's probably never folding AJ+, AT obviously is the 2pair, and maybe he folds A9. Also, after he puts in like 1/2 of his remaining stack on the turn he's probably not going to be too eager to fold...

Im not a fan of 3b pre, and if this is giving you problems, then wait until later in your career before doing so.

3b hands like Q2-Q6s/ K2-K6s, AQ+ and 88-QQ will make your life a bit easier

what is the plan for the 3b -eted Q2-Q6s/ K2-K6s ?

because his flop raise looks weak. AJ+ he is probably 4b pre, don't think he is playing 22 and 66 this way, FD is very possible, also there are some Ax that we beat. turn is a blank, we want to ch/r ai so he would bet his FD, air and maybe weaker aces

pokerfun - bluff 3bet

why call flop then c/f a blank turn
seems a waste of chips to me

why do you think so? i mean, we are probably flipping against his flatting range or slightly ahead and have to play oop against an unknown in a big pot. also we very likely deny ourselves the possibility of outdrawing a better hand because he 4bets alot of them.

i see how we make a profit on the 3bet, but don't you think a good player can extract much more value in this spot by flatting pre and play a medium sized pot with a TP hand and leave himself alot of implied odds for drawing to a flush?

Folding top pair on a safe board in a 3bet pot is usually not a killer idea.

ohly do you play $11 turbos on stars??

pm'd