shoving pre is fine
shoving flop is fine.
folding turn is fine.
Can´t say if i prefer shoving over flatting pre .I´d need more information about the previous hands. If there is the slightest indication, that villain is fed up with me i´ll shove pre.
I would really like to see numbers on this on which play is more +EV rather than just guessing..
Shoving preflop is spew. We need 46.6% equity to shove here and he'd have 3bet like 15% to have that.
Any math guy want to run the EV on villain having 99+/AJo+ here and bet/folding 235 with AJo/AKo and AJs/AKs that isn't AdJd/AdKd and assuming he'd call with 99+?
Also math on the above but also put in that he's bet/folding 235 with 99-JJ as well.
Last edited by borderline; 09-18-2010 at 06:45 AM.
our equity against his range doesn't improve on this flop, so if a raise on the flop is good boils down to wether you can get him to fold 88-jj imo. i think calling flop is probably your best option though, he gives you reasonable odds and against his stack off range on the flop you draw to 2 outs.
Assuming he bets his entire AJo+/99+ range on the flop, that is 6.3% of hands. If he continues with 99+/AQ/AdJd/AdKd, that is 4.1% of hands he is continuing with.
If we get him to fold 99-JJ and have him only continue with AdJd/AdKd/AQ/QQ+, this is 2.7% which means he is bet/folding .
i would shove this hand if i have a read. The blind is 25/50 so u must have some kind of a read on him. mid pairs is hard to play vs villain's 3 bet especially in this lvl. Shoving preflop this hand is std for me
Villain needs to have about 50% bluffs in his 3bet-range to make this a +ev shove, assuming he 3bet-calls 99+ and AQ+
It seems pretty unlikely he throws the first 3-bet-bluff this far into the game and with even stacks. It's possible I guess if he's tired of OP opening really wide. Therefore shoving pre looks pretty bad?
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