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09-22-2010 , 04:18 PM

CutchaLosses

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Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 570 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t1470)
Hero (BB) (t1530)

Hero's M: 34.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2

, Q

SB bets t60, Hero raises to t150, SB calls t90

Flop: (t300) 4

, 10

, 3

(2 players)
Hero bets t150, SB calls t150

Turn: (t600) 6

(2 players)
Hero

leanin towards check shovin but considerin bet callin would have to price it right though. wanna win the pot. open to other options. don't wanna miss riv then get looked up with bet check bet in 3 bet pot

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09-22-2010 , 04:36 PM

Arsenal Gunners

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Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 640

i prefer bet bet bet tbh
don't see nothing calling a 3bet and this flop that can take the pressure but maybe 33 or 44, TT+ 5c6c would raise flop or 4bet pre

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09-22-2010 , 04:38 PM

mersenneary

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readless?

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09-22-2010 , 04:41 PM

CutchaLosses

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readless, and what sizings cuz i don't wanna bet fold the turn very often but i don't wanna make lots of bad calls either

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09-22-2010 , 04:45 PM

yaqh

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ive been playing around w/ having an overbet jamming range in spots like this

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09-22-2010 , 05:12 PM

CutchaLosses

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Originally Posted by yaqh

ive been playing around w/ having an overbet jamming range in spots like this

yeh i like that alternative sometimes just feel we have 1200 chips still it might be a lil too much here and for all the times we can barell hit and win more chips or barel bluf and have him fold we win more chips. just an interesting spot

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09-22-2010 , 05:18 PM

lagdonk

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bet/call seems to me the clear favorite -- too lazy to calculate a size that prices us in to bet/call, like 400?

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09-22-2010 , 05:27 PM

mersenneary

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3bet pre is not something I would do readless especially if this spot seems confusing, but not as in touch with the animal of the 550 random.

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09-22-2010 , 05:44 PM

CutchaLosses

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Originally Posted by mersenneary

3bet pre is not something I would do readless especially if this spot seems confusing, but not as in touch with the animal of the 550 random.

im fine with it i just wanted to hear some opinions. just sometimes i start playing vicious and not wanting to fold suited q highs to min raises

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09-22-2010 , 05:47 PM

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mersenneary

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Originally Posted by CutchaLosses

just sometimes i start playing vicious and not wanting to fold suited q highs to min raises

meh

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09-22-2010 , 05:48 PM

#11

spamz

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what's wrong with flatting Q2s pre vs a minraise?

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09-22-2010 , 05:54 PM

#12

CutchaLosses

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Originally Posted by spamz0r

what's wrong with flatting Q2s pre vs a minraise?

i don't think ive done that many times? should i start? anything to add to my list of options to make me not fold

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09-22-2010 , 05:58 PM

#13

spamz

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i dont think i ever folded Qxs to a minraise pre unless we were really shallow tbh lol

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09-22-2010 , 06:12 PM

#14

CutchaLosses

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maybe this is the reason i haven't won ina year. i don't think its a leak to fold q2s tho its hardly connected and if your not getting run over i think u could mix in folding and winning 3 bet pots with hands like this? I could be wrong Im undecided

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09-22-2010 , 10:02 PM

#15

Barewire

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well i hear ppl dont fold to 3bets and this is a pretty dry board but a lot of ppl are dumb and think they can showdown KQ high here so i'd just bet. sizing would prob be on the small side, calling or folding to a jam is not really relevant its just a separate math problem

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09-22-2010 , 11:25 PM

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Arsenal Gunners

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i'm with everyone else it seems that calling this early with Q2s is preferred. I assumed you had a reason like the small 3bet shows so I went with it. you can get some good postflop reads early by calling with hands like this. I mean, they would have to be folding quite a high percentage pre or OTF to be doing this with Q2s really.

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