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 miniFTOPS #12 - linechecks (12 hands; long)  miniFTOPS #12 - linechecks (12 hands; long)

12-13-2010 , 12:52 AM
Had a great run in miniFTOPS, wishing to improve from my $6 / $11 HUSNG's. Just posting some hands, also with my thinking, hoping you can give some insightful information...

Those, who really review this all will be my eternal heroes!
So here it goes....

Round 1 - Villain stats



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1st hand

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t3140 157 BBs
BTN/SB: t2860 143 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with K 7
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 7 Q 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t240) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t140, Hero calls t140

River: (t520) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t300, Hero folds
It's the 7th hand of the 1st round, so I have no idea. Played this like a nit. Would you suggest raising flop/turn? Or maybe folding turn. I just tried to spike another K/7, and getting to showdown as cheaply as I can.

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2nd hand

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t2860 143 BBs
BTN/SB: t3140 157 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 2 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) A J 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t60, Hero calls t60

Turn: (t240) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t140, Hero calls t140

River: (t520) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t320, Hero calls t320
I'm thinking that I played both turn and river pretty bad. Any suggestions?


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3rd hand

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t3470 173.50 BBs
BB: t2530 126.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 6 T
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 3 2 T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB raises to t200, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t520) 8 (2 players)
BB bets t320, Hero calls t320

River: (t1160) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
Not very happy calling him down - still had to do it at some point. When he checks the river, when flush comes, can I bet there?

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4th hand

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t4435 110.88 BBs
BTN/SB: t1565 39.12 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BB with 7 J
BTN/SB raises to t80, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t160) T 5 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero raises to t240, BTN/SB calls t160

Turn: (t640) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets t400, BTN/SB raises to t1245 all in, Hero calls t845

River: (t3130) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)
If he raises flop, are we fine getting it in? What about calling? I wasn't very happy getting it in flop without fold equity.


Round 2 - Villain stats



They aren't very precise, he's not such a nit, he just timeouted every 5 seconds. In time meaning, he played about 80%, making ton's of free blind money for me. Guy gotta call his ISP. Although, flop/turn stats are perfectly fine.

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5th hand

Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t3160 158 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t2840 142 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with Q 9
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 7 6 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB calls t80

Turn: (t280) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t160, BB calls t160

River: (t600) K (2 players)
BB bets t455, Hero calls t455
This was a bit of tiltcall. I just didn't understand, what he could possibly be betting here. Is it a call?

Round 3 - Villain stats




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6th hand
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t2210 110.50 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t3790 189.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BTN/SB with 4 A
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t40

Flop: (t120) 4 A Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t80, BB raises to t200, Hero calls t120

Turn: (t520) 5 (2 players)
BB bets t350, Hero raises to t2560, BB calls t1600 all in

River: (t4420) K (2 players - 1 is all in)
Just look at his flopc/r%! I'm actually fine with the way I played. Having some doubts, whether it was more profitable to stack off onto flop, but I think this could be the best line.

Round 4 - Villain stats



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7th hand
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t2570 128.50 BBs
BTN/SB: t3430 171.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with A 7
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) T A 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t80, Hero calls t80

Turn: (t280) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t140, Hero calls t140

River: (t560) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t250, Hero calls t250
Just wondering about river call, and/or is there a need for a raise in some street? He's obviously betting for value there.


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8th hand
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t3085 102.83 BBs
BTN/SB: t2915 97.17 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BB with A T
BTN/SB raises to t90, Hero calls t60

Flop: (t180) Q K J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t100, Hero raises to t300, BTN/SB calls t200

Turn: (t780) J (2 players)
Hero bets t510, BTN/SB calls t510

River: (t1800) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets t780, BTN/SB calls t780
Interested in betsizing guidelines. Had a feeling I could stack him just right there.

Round 5 - Villain stats



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9th hand
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t3230 161.50 BBs
BTN/SB: t2770 138.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is BB with 9 A
BTN/SB raises to t60, Hero calls t40

Flop: (t120) 8 3 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t75, Hero calls t75

Turn: (t270) 7 (2 players)
Hero bets t180, BTN/SB calls t180

River: (t630) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks
This was the first time, I tried donking into villain after calling flop. I never do this at all. Just wondering whether it's a good play. As played, should I bet river?

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10th hand
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Hero (BTN/SB): t2055 34.25 BBs
BB: t3945 65.75 BBs

Pre Flop: (t90) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 A
Hero raises to t120, BB calls t60

Flop: (t240) J 5 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB calls t120

Turn: (t480) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: (t480) J (2 players)
BB bets t300, Hero calls t300
Are we fine with calling river?

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11th hand
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BB): t2855 28.55 BBs
BTN/SB: t3145 31.45 BBs

Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with 8 A
BTN/SB raises to t200, Hero calls t100

Flop: (t400) 8 5 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB checks

Turn: (t400) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t100, BTN/SB raises to t400, Hero calls t300

River: (t1200) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets t700, Hero raises to t2255 all in, BTN/SB folds
Got asked if I did have air in this hand. I decided not to bet flop, as he often did take stabs at the pot in turn. Thinking flop/turn could be kinda fancy.


Round 6 - Villain stats




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12th hand
Full Tilt Poker MiniFTOPS Event #12 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t3265 108.83 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t2735 91.17 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with 9 K
Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60

Flop: (t180) T 2 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (t180) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB calls t120

River: (t420) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t210, BB raises to t600, Hero folds
I still do not know what he raises there. I just went WTF, and folded. Any ideas? I'm thinking, he will not c/r river on bluff, so fine play. Have no idea of his hand though.

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That's it.
 miniFTOPS #12 - linechecks (12 hands; long) Quote
12-13-2010 , 01:15 AM
stats are not important at all, give us reads on his tendencies
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12-13-2010 , 01:28 AM
+1, we need to know things like

has he been cbetting a lot? double barrel bluff that went to showdown? normal raise sizing... bet sizing, has he been calling light
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12-13-2010 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BitchiBee
stats are not important at all, give us reads on his tendencies
You can clearly see the opponents tendencies in stats.

Check for
BetVsMissedCbet == takes a stabs in turn
AP/AF == for general aggro
How he reacts to c-bets == check flop statistics

I'm very bad, when it comes down to notes, I just mostly one-table, and I mostly remember the situations, as the hand's involved are not so many. I know it's a leak - but I play micros/low - so I've never met the same opponent twice.

So, sorry for not providing reads, how he plays top pair. You get so little encounters. Only notes I usually write, is "capable of bluffing river" and "can actually fold something"

Also, notes, that I actually had - I did write them in FTP, and it's really hard to access them.

Nevertheless, I will search for other hands and try to get some info.
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12-13-2010 , 01:36 AM
for 1st hand -

Villain spazzed out randomly with garbage. Totally out of line, but did keep it passive afterwards.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer
Hero ($3,000)
($3,000)

Dealt to Hero K T

raises to $60, Hero calls $40

FLOP ($120) J Q K

Hero checks, bets $60, Hero calls $60

TURN ($240) J Q K J

Hero checks, checks

RIVER ($240) J Q K J Q

Hero checks, checks

Hero shows K T
(Pre 67%, Flop 97.4%, Turn 100.0%)

shows 2 6
(Pre 33%, Flop 2.6%, Turn 0.0%)

Hero wins $240
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12-13-2010 , 01:38 AM
u know that seemed pretty standard to me >< raise and cbet and check check hardly spazzing at all
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12-13-2010 , 01:43 AM
for a 6/11s player you played every hand very well. 9th hand is iffy, but once you get there its a clear valuebet on the river unless villain is tight. AT hand just jam the river, I don't know why you tried to get cute.

and yeah he played the 62 hand fine idk what you are talking about

Last edited by BitchiBee; 12-13-2010 at 01:56 AM.
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12-13-2010 , 01:51 AM
Anyway, I'm no expert, but eh:

Hand 1: I think it was played pretty well, esp if you had no reads - never raise, why would you turn your pair into a bluff here? Unless you have a sick read he will b/c with A high or pocket threes..

Hand 2: I dont like calling OOP with A-rag so I usually just 3b here to like 180. But yea, calldown

Hand 3: wp if he bet any river id prob fold though

Hand 4: wp but I think I fold if he comes over the top dunno about others though

Hand 5: This is a feel thing, sorry

Hand 6: wp I think both are fine..though he might be less willing to get Qx hearts in on the turn

Hand 7: Maybe minraise river if you had a read he bets for value and calls light o.o if you think he's betting for value with a ten

Hand 8: Shove river he's never folding if he calls that 780

Hand 10: yessssssss so std

Hand 11: eh I like river shove as he could be calling with his worse 2p or something, turn is w/e if you have a read he is willing to spazzzz else just bet
bigger for value

Hand 12: Yea fold river c/r are the nuts / rivered 2p with the Q



In short: move up you're crushing $6/$11s dont get results orientated:P
 miniFTOPS #12 - linechecks (12 hands; long) Quote
12-13-2010 , 01:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BitchiBee
for a 6/11s player you played every hand very well. 8th hand is iffy, but once you get there its a clear valuebet on the river unless villain is tight. AT hand just jam the river, I don't know why you tried to get cute.

and yeah he played the 62 hand fine idk what you are talking about
In AT hand he had
Spoiler:
AA
, it was close to pot-size bet, but I was not sure if he would call there for all of his stack. Putting him on Kx mostly there, he has real trouble calling there for all of his stack. So, I just made a offer he cannot refuse.
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12-13-2010 , 01:59 AM
Since he called river for 780 anyway, he might just convince himself that he beats your KQ and call..since its so unlikely you raised flop with a J unless it was like KJ... and I doubt you even raise that on the flop :P
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