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03-07-2011 , 09:56 PM

fastcolt

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raise flop because villain is fish and he will call any pair, (so for value) on turn, i just flat, because if he is bluffing, i want him to bluff the river as well

on river well its w.e lol

Full Tilt, $55 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8124052

BB: 1,455 (48.5 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,545 (51.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 5

Hero raises to 60, BB calls 30

Flop: (120) 3

(2 players)
BB bets 30, Hero raises to 90, BB calls 60

Turn: (300) 2

(2 players)
BB bets 300, Hero calls 300

River: (900) 8

(2 players)
BB bets 150, Hero raises to 1,095 and is all-in, BB calls 855 and is all-in

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03-07-2011 , 10:48 PM

quiquiriqui

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doesnt make sense that villain wld stack off light on this riv but not that turn imo

i raise the turn

i prob just call the small river bet tbh or min-raise/fold (lol)

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03-07-2011 , 11:03 PM

fastcolt

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ye i shouldnt have post the fact that he called lol

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03-07-2011 , 11:12 PM

TrololoNoob

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Originally Posted by quiquiriqui

doesnt make sense that villain wld stack off light on this riv but not that turn imo

i raise the turn

i prob just call the small river bet tbh or min-raise/fold (lol)

L O L

nh op

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03-07-2011 , 11:21 PM

chadders0

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i would be raising turn as well i think, with raising the flop we have like no fives in our percieved range so should get paid off by a lot of hands imo. also not often i would expect a 2 st suicide bluff on a 4 to a straight board (esp since they wont know if we will fold tpgk in this spot) so i dont think we are losing bluffin value vs the majority of opponents.

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03-08-2011 , 12:04 AM

andees10

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wp, i dont like raising the turn.

I think w/ that sizing most ppl are polarizing their range. Let him barrel his air, or he could be ******ly turning sdv into a bluff (you see crazy things like this here) which he may also bet the river with(or ck/call). Your expection is higher by flating here imo.

If he were to bet like 1/2 pot or less I would avocate raising.

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03-08-2011 , 12:20 AM

quiquiriqui

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trolo etc

do we rly get much value on most rivs playing our hand this way?

agree w andees that the psb is usually polarizing fwiw. trying to make the best of a weird value situation

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03-08-2011 , 01:09 AM

quiquiriqui

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like we dont expect him to barrel air or sdv twice, do we? or check/call? more often than psb/calling on the turn?

i dunno i guess 2 pair would feel more "trapped" if it got to the riv .. seems close tho. esp bc villain isnt putting us on a 5 after we raise the flop.

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