I open, JJ5r he lead pot i folded
I folded few BB when he open
He ch/folded 2 other drawy pot when i did cbet


No-Limit Hold'em Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (2 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (BB) (t1395)
SB (t1605)

Hero's M: 31.00

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K
SB calls t15, Hero bets t60, SB calls t60

Flop: (t180) 8, 9, 6 (2 players)
Hero bets t100, SB raises t480, Hero folds

Total pot: t380

Good fold.

I stoved the hand and you have pretty terrible equity even if we don't include that many flushes (since a flush might raise smaller?). I think a fold is actually the best play.

u mr his limp at these stack sizes?

also this seems a rlly easy fold

and how is this a 3bet pot?

def get it in imo. id be more worried if he raised to 250

edit: is this even a 3b pot?

i wrote pretty fast, think this isn't 3bet pot

Have you stoved it, I mean even vs A LOT of semi bluffs and very few made flushes we are in terrible shape....

same

I'm getting it in vs that raise size.

i like the fold

meh for me this really depends on whether or not i have an edge on my opponent. in-game i snap this off without even thinking about it because im a fish, but if we feel we have a decent edge on villain, i dont hate a fold here.

What range do you assign him to make this a shove?

This is such a clear fold. You are only slightly ahead of such a small part of his range.

The only hands we are well ahead of are TP with no diamond or straight draws and you can't assume villain is spewing with those hands here. Vs any pair + OESD with no diamond (again would he really be raising here?) you are only a small favourite.

Vs the huge part of his range of pair plus flush draws and straight draws with flush draws you are behind. Basically any combo draw has you beat and there are sooo many of those hands in his range.

If it was a 3bet pot and you had invested more chips then it would be a closer decision, but as it is you have only put in 190 chips, so easy fold.

Let's not play like fishies and think "I have KK, I'm all in"

Lol wat? +EV = +EV

@tilt - ??

You think shoving KK is +EV here?

Why do we have to cbet? We can draw to a blank turn pretty profitably.

Intresting...

blank will be like 1/3 cards, and 2/3 times we have to ch/fold turn

i think if we have value in this moment we should bet for value, what you think?

I think you def need to cbet to get value from all draws including weak flushes and weak straight draws that aren't strong to raise and villain would call with, as well as any pairs.

so we put more chips into the pot, c/f 2/3 of the turns when he calls, and folding to a raise?

i'm confused right now with cbeting this

I could see c/c flop and c/r AI blank turn to get max value from pair+draws and other stuff which I'm pretty sure would not put you on KK, but I'm not sure.

Folding is meh/bad, the money in the pot is big enough for jamming to be +EV. We're probably a slight underdog vs his range. Plus we might even have a tiny bit of FE

good fold

Hmm, really think "bad" is an exaggeration I highly doubt there is any fold equity given villain's fairly commiting raise.

If this was a 3bet pot, then I think we would have invested enough to make jamming ok. But as it is I really think this is a fold. It is super close, I am not denying that, and I don't think jamming is bad, just that it is way too marginal.

not cbettin here is being results orientated.