He was playing 51/31.

Winning Poker Network (Yatahay) - 25/50 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

SB: 650.00
Hero (BB): 350.00

SB posts SB 25.00, Hero posts BB 50.00

Pre Flop: (75.00) Hero has T 9

SB raises to 100.00, Hero calls 50.00

Flop: (200.00, 2 players) 3 Q Q
Hero bets 250.00 and is all-in,

i know coffee will be a big fan, but i don't like the flat pre

I don't like your flat here with 7bb either. Again, who donk shoves a Q here? You never have a 3 with this stack size. You rep air as Ax Kx are all in pre, Qx doesn't donk shove, if villain can hand read J high is the nuts

+1 well said.

Shove pre?

When you make this play you're effectively saying that flatting and openshoving most flops will net you greater than the 1bb you lose from folding.

I don't think that's the case 7bb deep against almost anyone.

^ That's not true. Fish are fish, and there is always fold equity. I like your play OP vs some villains.

I guess it's ok flat with 9T,but the open shove :/

Why not? Do you prefer shoving? Im a big fan of flatting as well. Hes probably not gonna fold very often if we jam over his minraise and we are not doing that great against his range, although we will have quite some equity against it. t9 flops very well and it shouldnt be hard to realize our equity at 7bb, so i like a flat Furthermore, having a flatrange is the only way to exploit him for having a minraise range at this stackdepth.

those stats are op is giving are not clear to me, but he seems like a nit. you best exploit a nit by folding alot to his raises.

also what does realize one's equity even mean? we will very likely either be folding or getting it in on the flop, so we have to ask ourselves how often we get it in and with what kind of equity. assuming we have 36% equity pre, what does realizing our equity mean for those two probabilities?

I dont really get the stats either but if you have good reasons to assume his minraising range is superstrong here than yea, we can exploit him by folding. However, i think a lot of people minraise way wider than just premiums here. Minraising a wide range at 7bb is generally considered to be bad (almost all good players play shove, limp or fold at 7bb). Therefore, in theory, we should have a flatrange against minraises, 7bb, otherwise minraising wouldnt be a mistake.

Do you agree that call>shove?


We have a certain amount of equity preflop against his range, The closer the fraction of the pot that we win on average will be to the amount of equity that we had preflop, the better we realize our equity. Nor sure if this is the right term but that is what i meant with ''realizing equity''.We are very undeep(so his positional advantage will be low), and t9 has a nice flop equity distribution (Saw someone use this term yesterday and thought it was cool so im gonna use it aswell, i think it basically means that there are gonna be a lot of good flops and a lot of bad flops, on the flops that we are gonna have to fold against a bet we didnt have much equity anyway, for example lets say he openjams some flop, then it sucks if we have 25% equity against his range but still have to fold, but it sucks way less if we have to fold 5% equity. I think t9 does better in this aspect than some other hands that have 36% preflop ) So I think we will realize a high enough fraction of our preflop equity( We need to win 25% of the pot on average for a call to the minraise to be correct, and u said we have 36% equity against his range preflop. I think we can realize at least 25% of the 36% if we play well postflop) I hope you understand what i mean, not sure i do

Isn't this stop and go play usually done with small pocket pairs? So hero reps 22,44-55 mostly and not air.

Yes, because hero will flat 22-55 hands 7bb deep.

what are u representing there on that board, he only folds worse than urs coz he even can call J high, K high snap calls here i think. It only makes sence of u calling super wide oop, so u can represent that 3, maybe im wrong

LOL

wtf? flatting something 7bb, except some big pp?
You could aswell just jam pre, he is raise/folding or raise/calling, dont think he folds postflop his pre raise/call range unless it comes something like 789ss and he has like AK, even than imo people will call jam from bb, and you just give him a chance to hit something with his raise/fold range, and there is still those fishes who thinks suited = nuts and will raise fistump call 56s

PF aside Heros logic is quite clear here. He shoves it and teases Villain to call "if he can". But lets be real - Villain knows you are full of sh... in this spot, you probably would xr your 44+ AI and NEVER play an Q this way, so the question goes, how wide is he raising pf at those blinds. And did he openshove a lot? If thats the case and he is even nittier raising now than what his stats suggest, imo you run into his premium range, and unless he has a hand like 98 or an even worse bluff in that very scenario he snapcalls you.