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 KK 3 barrels gets raised on 28c6c 5 T  KK 3 barrels gets raised on 28c6c 5 T

10-08-2010 , 07:35 AM
Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t1500 50 BBs
BB: t1500 50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with K K
Hero raises to t60, BB calls t30

Flop: (t120) 2 8 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t60, BB calls t60

Turn: (t240) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB calls t150

River: (t540) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t240, BB raises to t630, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds

Villain is pretty loose passive OOP, likes to slowplay, he checkraised the river before with 2p iirc, Doesnt really c/r much, floats cbets relatively wide. Bored is pretty dry but am I ever good here? Do I need 2p+ to call?
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10-08-2010 , 07:38 AM
Also one more HH, Villains 3bet range is pretty tight, probably 3rd 3b in 50 hands, are we too shallow to raise/fold here or are we fine to fold?


Full Tilt Poker $5 + $0.25 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t20/t40 Blinds - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): t670 16.75 BBs
BB: t2330 58.25 BBs

Pre Flop: (t60) Hero is BTN/SB with J K
Hero raises to t80, BB raises to t2330 all in, Hero
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10-08-2010 , 08:00 AM
Vs this villain hand 1 is a good fold. Your second hand seems like a fold aswel, I don't think a tight villain will be jamming wide enough to call profitably.
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10-08-2010 , 08:02 AM
Hand 1 - Betting more on the river vs a loose/passive and folding vs a shove.

hand 2 - Not done the math in ages so i've forgot :P I thik you need 43% equity to call although someone will need to double check that. You don't have 40% vs any ace or pair so it looks like a fold if you thik he shoves on the tight side. Play about with stove and input the range you estimate him to shove and then work it out. It's a snap call vs a ton of people obv.
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10-08-2010 , 08:04 AM
Are you sure you can bet more on the river? Most of villain's range (that we beat) is second or third pair I think so I wouldn't really bet more than 200-250.
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10-08-2010 , 08:14 AM
Yeah i think i would. I'd put him on every 6x/8x obv and i also think he hits the ten a decent amount with T7/T9/TJ/QT/KT/AT etc etc since he floats a bunch. I know stakes shouldn't matter too much but at $5s i'm guessing you get called super light so i'd def bet a bit bigger here.

I'd probably bet 310ish into 540
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10-08-2010 , 08:31 AM
So helpful thx guys, im pro at overplaying big pairs so thought I'd check it in case im leveling myself into hero folding, the board hits alot of his range so guess your right, probably missing value though as you mentioned with <1/2 pot sizing.
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10-08-2010 , 04:02 PM
To be honest, i dont think i can fold KK here.. I think AT, KT can float you there..

I would like to see what most people would do here..
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10-08-2010 , 04:17 PM
I go broke here with kings...but i´m bad so you should probably fold
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10-08-2010 , 04:33 PM
Just think about a range that calls 2 streets and then check-raises the river. At and KT will rarely get to the river and if they do they usually won't check-raise. I think you'll see 2 pair here quite often.
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