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.25 deepstack - top twopair raised all in on turn .25 deepstack - top twopair raised all in on turn

02-22-2011 , 04:34 AM
Hey guys I've been practicing husngs lately and was wondering about my equity in the hand below. I started running it through pokerstove but I'm having trouble assigning villains range on the turn. My guess is any random cards preflop (his stats were 63/51/11.1, 2.0agg, 69% c-bet over 76 hands), minus some made hands and draws on the flop but thats where I get lost. I'd like to know if my call was +ev, I know his range is wide and I called because of the draws out there though I don't want to be proud of my call if in reality I was wrong. Any help is appreciated, THANKS.

Full Tilt Poker Game #28421526024: $5 + $0.25 Heads Up Sit & Go (221015787), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 23:55:04 ET - 2011/02/21
Seat 1: Kuato (2,215)
Seat 2: huber117 (3,785)
Kuato posts the small blind of 40
huber117 posts the big blind of 80
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to huber117 [Jh Kh]
Kuato raises to 160
huber117 calls 80
*** FLOP *** [Jc Kd 7c]
huber117 checks
Kuato checks
*** TURN *** [Jc Kd 7c] [Ac]
huber117 bets 280
Kuato raises to 2,055, and is all in
huber117 calls 1,775
Kuato shows [7d 4c]
huber117 shows [Jh Kh]
*** RIVER *** [Jc Kd 7c Ac] [9s]
Kuato shows a pair of Sevens
huber117 shows two pair, Kings and Jacks
huber117 wins the pot (4,430) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
huber117: lol
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,430 | Rake 0
Board: [Jc Kd 7c Ac 9s]
Seat 1: Kuato (small blind) showed [7d 4c] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 2: huber117 (big blind) showed [Jh Kh] and won (4,430) with two pair, Kings and Jacks
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02-22-2011 , 04:53 AM
1. use hands converte
2. dont show results
3.u write abt turn but your bad play is at flop ... why u did not bet?
4. as played as - turn is without reads snapcall bcs often players with flush make 3bet for value ... this shove looks like bluff..
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02-22-2011 , 05:07 AM
Use hand converter.

Bet flop with flush and straight draws possible on turn. Only slowplay 2 pair/sets on (relatively) dry flops.

Unless you were going for the check raise?

Call turn shove, surely a flush wouldn't just bet so out of proportion?

However, it's a possiblity.

Last edited by Jakester1288; 02-22-2011 at 05:33 AM.
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02-22-2011 , 05:13 AM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, 5.25 Tournament, 40/80 Blinds (2 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

SB (t2215)
Hero (BB) (t3785)

Hero's M: 31.54

Preflop: Hero is BB with J, K
SB bets t160, Hero calls t80

Flop: (t320) J, K, 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

Turn: (t320) A (2 players)
Hero bets t280, SB raises to t2055 (All-In), Hero calls t1775

River: (t4430) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t4430

bet flop, as played i call the turn
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02-22-2011 , 12:46 PM
I was going for a check-raise on the flop.

I recall him minraising a lot in position and folding most of the times I lead on the flop, didnt bet because I was looking to get more out of the hand. He was min raising a lot and I expected him to bet on the flop if he caught a piece of it, in which case I'd raise. Sorry I didnt delete the results guys but from a pokerstove analysis standpoint, it shows I can start with 100% of hands then deduct the hands he would bet on the flop, rather than just say the top 52% of hands which his stats indicate (or am I wrong about this?)

Anyway thanks for the input.
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02-22-2011 , 01:34 PM
3bet pre, tho I'd appreciate some reads (stats don't count as reads). As played wp
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02-22-2011 , 03:31 PM
turn is an easy fold.
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02-22-2011 , 04:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by borderline
turn is an easy fold.
I haven't played the $5's, but there's a good chance he's just hit an ace, and is trying to get the chips in against worse hands.

As OP said, he has been betting out at flops he's connected with, surely he'd cbet an overcard and the nut flush draw, after leading preflop.
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02-22-2011 , 04:13 PM
Quote:
3.u write abt turn but your bad play is at flop ... why u did not bet?
...69% cbet?
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02-22-2011 , 05:00 PM
Why no 3-bet pre? Then c-bet this nice flop and be happy to go all in
As played and planned I guess easy call.

Last edited by crazyriver; 02-22-2011 at 05:07 PM.
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02-22-2011 , 05:51 PM
I was rarely 3betting and when I did I dont think he ever called, again probably cuz I rarely did it. Had I 3bet pre I would win an extra big blind at best, at worst hed push with the equivalent of my hand or better. My plan was to check raise him if the flop brough a single king or jack (hoping I had him outkicked), and float him if the flop missed me. With his cbet% at 70, I think firing the turn would be profitable.
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