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04-26-2011 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer
I really like a spamz vote, and think it's better than a random dhcg vote. Spamz is smart, and his action so far gives a wolf lean. would be down for a Kurru/Spamz wagon
I like this idea a lot

spamz seemed wolfy to me too (i posted so earlier)

it's also consistent with how he acted in the last game (where he was indeed a wolf)

given more rallying i could go for this.
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04-26-2011 , 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by chadders0
out of the silent people maybe we should consider the people who normally have high posts activity but havent posted yet, especially if they have been online 2p2 since the start of the game
That's the remark I made about RBJ. In my last post. (Don't know if he's been on 2+2 today though).
And I indeed think that's something to consider, but as main reason to use, it seems a bit poor.
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04-26-2011 , 05:51 PM
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04-26-2011 , 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
That's the remark I made about RBJ. In my last post. (Don't know if he's been on 2+2 today though).
And I indeed think that's something to consider, but as main reason to use, it seems a bit poor.
for some people it would be a good indicator, like dhcg for example, if had been online all day and not posting i would be surprised if he turned out to be a bog standard villager
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04-26-2011 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by berksonz
Ill give Kurru my vote too. Just posting to post seems like a waste. May change my vote but who knows?

Vote Kurru
any other ideas about who you think might be a wolf? or did you drop in just to vote
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04-26-2011 , 06:00 PM
coffee seems to just be posting in support of most bandwagons to survive right now. If you're a plain villager, I'd advise you to knock that off. Anybody but me is a good strategy if you're a wolf or a villager with some power.
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04-26-2011 , 06:01 PM
Yeah the whole Kurru thing is very suspicious, I just don´t buy it. Mers reading through this entire thread and voting for some random dude that doesn't have time for the game. I honestly expected something more from him then this random berksonz dude drops in to vote for Kurru, I don´t like this at all.
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04-26-2011 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
coffee seems to just be posting in support of most bandwagons to survive right now. If you're a plain villager, I'd advise you to knock that off. Anybody but me is a good strategy if you're a wolf or a villager with some power.
Ok i'll knock it off I just got a bit carried away. I'll wait until end of day to cast my final vote, and will just read posts for a bit.
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04-26-2011 , 06:05 PM
I voted for Kurro because so far he has 1 post which he stated he had read the whole thread. He had already one vote for him when he posted but didn't acknowledge that at all, plus voting for mers who is definitely not gonna be voted out the first day seems like a wasted vote.
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04-26-2011 , 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer
I really like a spamz vote, and think it's better than a random dhcg vote. Spamz is smart, and his action so far gives a wolf lean. would be down for a Kurru/Spamz wagon
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Originally Posted by Punch Dancer
^ saying his actions seem wolfy is a bit strong. It's just potentially wolfy. pop in, make a vote, say hi, lay low. Seems like a fairly rational thing to do as a wolf, and he's a fairly rational person.

Would also be a good person to kill because he's either being a good/smart wolf, or a fairly worthless villager atm.
yeah I agree w you here. voting spamz too coz I'd have expected much more community action of him and all he did was two short votes for reasons outlined by others. yes he could be a villager and be levelling us trying to appear wolfy but trying to get killed just doesn't make sense iyam.

there are 14 pages itt so there are prob fishier candidates than spamz itt but really I don't see a point in starting a new bandwagon which is most likely not gonna get followed; if I'm gonna vote I'd like to make a difference as there is no point in me voting otherwise
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04-26-2011 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
the problem is that there were no arguments for lolsteamroller except for my joke "he said wolves in his first post so he must be a wolf" and chadders' joke "for obvious reasons, he gave a good HUD" and all you said was for above quoted reasons, just as the votes on steamroller got be 3 deep.
Indeed no good reasons to vote for lolsteamroller, so I changed that as soon as I came back home. At that time it seemed better to vote for somebody without much proof, than not to vote at all. Should have read the arguments better though.

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
then when pressure falls off lolsteamroller you come back suddenly,
You make it sound like I have been reading and waiting and quickly interfered when the atmosphere changed. But as stated in my 1st thread (and even in the signup thread), I wasn't home most part of today. I replied back as soon as I could.

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
give some random info about filthy
I still find it strange that he said something among the lines of "don't talk about seers, it's bad to draw attention to them", while this is the perfect way to draw attention to them. (that ain't "some random info")
And my second argument I gave for him, counts for all good players. If the good players are villagers, the wolves will kill them. If the wolves don't kill the good players, it might be best we kill them, as they are probably the most dangerous wolves. But this might be an argument we better use after some rounds of play, when several people have been killed already.

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
and then jump to voting for me, who at this point was under a lot of pressure and had a large number of votes, citing "gut feeling".
I honestly don't care (at this point) how many votes you (or whoever) has. Something in one of your first posts just didn't sound like something a villager would say (and appearantly, several people had that feeling). I could not lay my finger on the argument, but I translated "I just didn't sound right" as "gut feeling".
It's not much, indeed, but we don't have much at the moment to go on. Once some people are killed, we'll have a bunch more clues, but we can't just wait for that to happen.

Maybe I fall in the beginner trap of thinking "I know I'm a villager, you suspect me based on false arguments so you must be a wolf, etc". But hey, that's the risk. And I'm not hammering on hanging you though, at this moment there is nobody who is giving me more reasons to suspect, so I stick with my vote. Good luck.

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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
all of this is very wolfy imo, seems textbook noob wolf.
Is it? Well, lol, what can I say to that?
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04-26-2011 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by berksonz
voting for mers who is definitely not gonna be voted out the first day seems like a wasted vote.
+ some other reasons, unvote
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04-26-2011 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IheardJoeblows
Yeah the whole Kurru thing is very suspicious, I just don´t buy it. Mers reading through this entire thread and voting for some random dude that doesn't have time for the game. I honestly expected something more from him then this random berksonz dude drops in to vote for Kurru, I don´t like this at all.
I think mers was just frustrated that kurru doesn't appear to be taking it seriously or whatever, so he just though "k if you're gonna be useless then im gonna vote for you"

I don't have mers on my suspect list right now
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04-26-2011 , 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
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Is it? Well, lol, what can I say to that?
nice reply finally you make some sense and i like your logic. thanks for clearing things up.

unvote
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04-26-2011 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Ok i'll knock it off I just got a bit carried away. I'll wait until end of day to cast my final vote, and will just read posts for a bit.
You should keep posting. Just don't employ an "anybody but me" strategy unless you have good reason to.
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04-26-2011 , 06:16 PM
Also: Gonna sleep now. Looking forward to tomorrow.

Spoiler:
The day/night - timing is not optimal for Euro players who have to get up early in the morning. I'm not feeling like staying up until 2am every night to 2am every time... Maybe start the night 2 hours earlier in a next edition?
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04-26-2011 , 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IheardJoeblows
Yeah the whole Kurru thing is very suspicious, I just don´t buy it. Mers reading through this entire thread and voting for some random dude that doesn't have time for the game. I honestly expected something more from him then this random berksonz dude drops in to vote for Kurru, I don´t like this at all.
I think it's reasonable to be supsicious of me right now. My wolf game is generally to talk a lot and try to pretend I'm a village leader. I've also made some wolfy posts in this thread as others have pointed out. If I make a bad vote tonight it's even more reasonable to go after me tomorrow.
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04-26-2011 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by IheardJoeblows
Yeah the whole Kurru thing is very suspicious, I just don´t buy it. Mers reading through this entire thread and voting for some random dude that doesn't have time for the game. I honestly expected something more from him then this random berksonz dude drops in to vote for Kurru, I don´t like this at all.
if you're implying a mers/berksonz wolfteam trying to randomly kill off innocent villager kurra i just don't see it :/
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04-26-2011 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
if you're implying a mers/berksonz wolfteam trying to randomly kill off innocent villager kurra i just don't see it :/
If Kurra is a villager it does make coffee/filthy/jack more likely to be wolves and me/berks more likely to be wolves.
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04-26-2011 , 06:26 PM
I'm still sticking with voting filthy. There's no reason for a villager to stir up so much drama right away, let alone a villager with a special role. I don't like the whole kurr thing either for same reasons as joeblows.

While I do like the idea of filthy staying around because he has been so vocal, I don't want to listen to his friendly villager advice and end up drinking the kool aid.

Kinda seems like in prison where I hear they'll offer you cigarettes and snacks and be real nice at first, then fk you hard later. Just what a wolf would try to do.
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04-26-2011 , 06:28 PM
Votes as of post 220.
night in 1:32
# Player votes for
0 bambam192 unvote
0 bbq dhcg86
0 berksonz kurru
0 bob ross filthyvermin
0 chadders0 lolsteamroller
0 chugenemes
3 coffeeyay unvote
1 dhcg86
0 donjonnie filthyvermin
0 duncelanas coffeeyay
0 earl hookt
4 filthyvermin kurru
1 hookt filthyvermin
0 IheardJoeBlows
3 jackoneill unvote
0 jspazz spamz
1 karlizl lolsteamroller
3 Kurru unvote
2 lolsteamroller filthyvermin
0 mersenneary kurru
0 moteutsch
0 nine9
0 polycarpus coffeeyay
0 punch dancer spamz
0 raised by jews
0 sheerb jackoneill
2 spamz karlizl
0 tamas6 jackoneill
0 yaqh jackoneill
0 znark86 coffeeyay
Leaders as of post 220:
4 - filthyvermin
3 - coffeeyay
3 - jackoneill
3 - Kurru
2 - lolsteamroller
2 - spamz
1 - dhcg86
1 - hookt
1 - karlizl
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04-26-2011 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
if you're implying a mers/berksonz wolfteam trying to randomly kill off innocent villager kurra i just don't see it :/
Ok, I think you right but since you dont see it, then it´s a great plan invented by mers the infamous nerdy mastermind of husng. Also I would think this would happen relatively close to night time. Having said that the paranoia might be killing me, I think you a villager or a really good wolf, leaning towards a villager.

Maybe this spamz bandwagon is a wolf rallying not Kurru.
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04-26-2011 , 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Bob Ross
I'm still sticking with voting filthy. There's no reason for a villager to stir up so much drama right away, let alone a villager with a special role. I don't like the whole kurr thing either for same reasons as joeblows.

While I do like the idea of filthy staying around because he has been so vocal, I don't want to listen to his friendly villager advice and end up drinking the kool aid.

Kinda seems like in prison where I hear they'll offer you cigarettes and snacks and be real nice at first, then fk you hard later. Just what a wolf would try to do.
so you think mers/berksonz are wolves and they decided to pounce on kurra for no particular reason? Idk, just doesn't seem likely to me. Then again, mers did say that wolves rarely go against the stream in terms of voting... so maybe he decided to follow his own advice and go after kurra, but tbh it seems super unlikely to me.

Please reconsider your vote against filthy though. He seems like a clever mother****er, so my advice would be to keep a close eye on him but don't kill him off yet, at the very least wait a few days and see... killing one of the most active people on day 1 for no real reason seems silly to me
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04-26-2011 , 06:33 PM
im gonna unvote cos there was no logical reason behing lolsteamroller
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04-26-2011 , 06:34 PM
i dont think many wolves would be trying to sway votes from the get go
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