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04-26-2011 , 04:55 PM
Was just thinking about a day 1 strat, since it seems like we're really just taking a 1/2 assed wagon in a few directions w/ little to no chance of getting a wolf (since we're implicating mostly active posters and the wolves will have influence to stop a wolf wagon w/o really having to stand out too much)...

Anyways, what if we take someone who is prob the most obv villager, have him pick an inactive player, or someone w/ like 1 post, and wagon the fk out of him. The villagers mostly should jump on, wolves won't beable to wagon against w/o standing out.

Just a thought, i'm new to WW and dunno what a good day 1 strat is other than the whole post seer cover (which noone seems to be doing) and being active as a villager, inactive as a wolf.

Thoughts?
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04-26-2011 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by coffeeyay
Polycarpus

It feels silly to start a new bandwagon, but his posts are short, always reference other people's arguments, and jump onto bandwagons around votes 3-5 which just SCREAMS wolf to me. Hopefully i'll have time later tonight to do more detailed analysis, but maybe in the meantime someone can reread his posts and see if they see the same things.
Feel free to start another bandwagon, and why not, mine, lol
If you want my reply to above accusations: Yes my posts are short. And "always" referring to other peoples arguments? Lol dude, I have two posts. (not counting my question about bold unvotes)
About my first post: It was short indeed. I had to leave and wasn't sure when I'd get back, and if I'd have the time to get back online. So I needed to be short, and voted for the only one were I could see some arguments at that time. Otherwise I might not have been able to vote. When I got back home, I reread everything, undid my first vote, and voted for you.

My analysis for now:
* Coffeeyay: His accusation at my address confirms my suspicion. Not because it's about me, but because his arguments don't seem to make much sense. I think I made my intentions clear in my first post, and yet he uses this against me. And he makes some "analysis" about all my posts, while it's actually only 2 posts. Plus he's not analyzing further himself, but pushing others to do so. A tactic wolfs like to use if I'm not mistaken. They want to kill a villager, but hope others come up with the reason why they should be killed. He's my nr 1 suspect and my vote atm.
* Yaqh and mers: Give me a villagery impression so far. Decent analysis and no-nonsense.
* filthyvermin: have to think this one over
* raised-by-jews: There's probably another explanation for this, but I expected him to be very active here. At least, if he's a villager. As a wolf it's better to stay low profile. Could of course be a schedule thing as well, too early to call this a "suspicion". Maybe this argument counts for others as well, but there are few I know well, so I don't know who's normally active in topics like this one.
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04-26-2011 , 04:58 PM
im thinkin jack o neill isnt a wolve
just his genereal demeanour over the day has been static, and i dont think he would have jumped in there with this strategy from the get go without having some kind of wolve discussion first if he was one, and there wasnt much chance for that to happen at the beginning of the day when he started posting
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04-26-2011 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mersenneary
While the best players/thinkers will be night kill targets at some point, I expect wolves to mostly try to hunt for the seers early on. I would be surprised to die within the first few nights, but if I'm alive in the second half of the game, it's either because I'm cleared by a seer or angels are saving me.

To the newbies: Here's one thing I didn't realize about this game at first (it's a basic point, but I didn't get it at first). If you're a villager with no special powers, and the wolves kill you at night, this is GREAT. You've done well. Don't do anything because you "don't want to get killed at night" - that's being selfish wanting to stay in the game. As a plain villager your goals are to not get killed by the village, to pick the right people to vote for, and to get the wolves to kill you.
This strikes me as very villagery. Basically saying he's a wolf if he doesn't get lynched pretty quick is a pretty suicidal wolf strat. If he wasn't mers, i'd be way more sure of my vill read

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04-26-2011 , 05:01 PM
Spamz
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04-26-2011 , 05:02 PM
player - voted for

bambam192 -
bbq
berksonz
bob ross - filthyvermin
chadders - lolsteamroller
chugenemes
coffeeyay - polycarpus
dhcg86
donjonnie - filthyvermin
duncelanas
earl - hookt
filthyvermin -
hookt - filthyvermni
IheardJoeBlows
jackoneill -
jspazz
karlizl
Kurru
lolsteamroller - chadders
mersenneary
moteutsch
nine9
polycarpus - coffeeyay
punch dancer -
raised by jews
sheerb - jackoneill
spamz - coffeeyay
tamas6
yaqh - jackoneill
znark86 - coffeeyay

is what i get
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04-26-2011 , 05:02 PM
Yaqh is the one who said to consider angeling some of the more experienced players. He's been villagery so far and I'm giving him a lot of credit by not clearing him.
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04-26-2011 , 05:03 PM
and adding in pd's vote for spamz, this gives

filthy - 3
lolsteamroller - 1
polycarpus - 1
chadders - 1
coffeeyay - 3
jackoneill - 2
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04-26-2011 , 05:03 PM
kurru

bleh
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04-26-2011 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Polycarpus
Feel free to start another bandwagon, and why not, mine, lol
If you want my reply to above accusations: Yes my posts are short. And "always" referring to other peoples arguments? Lol dude, I have two posts. (not counting my question about bold unvotes)
About my first post: It was short indeed. I had to leave and wasn't sure when I'd get back, and if I'd have the time to get back online. So I needed to be short, and voted for the only one were I could see some arguments at that time. Otherwise I might not have been able to vote. When I got back home, I reread everything, undid my first vote, and voted for you.
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the problem is that there were no arguments for lolsteamroller except for my joke "he said wolves in his first post so he must be a wolf" and chadders' joke "for obvious reasons, he gave a good HUD" and all you said was for above quoted reasons, just as the votes on steamroller got be 3 deep.

then when pressure falls off lolsteamroller you come back suddenly, give some random info about filthy and then jump to voting for me, who at this point was under a lot of pressure and had a large number of votes, citing "gut feeling".

all of this is very wolfy imo, seems textbook noob wolf.
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04-26-2011 , 05:19 PM
dhcg86
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04-26-2011 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by yaqh
and adding in pd's vote for spamz, this gives

filthy - 3
lolsteamroller - 1
polycarpus - 1
chadders - 1
coffeeyay - 3
jackoneill - 2
er,
spamz - 1
kurru - 1
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04-26-2011 , 05:20 PM
dhcg - 1


rly is best for getting info if we can focus on 2 or 3 people
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04-26-2011 , 05:21 PM
PM or AIM me corrections.

Votes as of post 187.
night in 2:39
# Player votes for
0 bambam192 unvote
0 bbq dhcg86
0 berksonz
0 bob ross filthyvermin
0 chadders0 lolsteamroller
0 chugenemes
3 coffeeyay polycarpus
1 dhcg86
0 donjonnie filthyvermin
0 duncelanas coffeeyay
0 earl hookt
4 filthyvermin kurru
1 hookt filthyvermin
0 IheardJoeBlows
2 jackoneill unvote
0 jspazz
1 karlizl lolsteamroller
1 Kurru
2 lolsteamroller filthyvermin
0 mersenneary
0 moteutsch
0 nine9
1 polycarpus coffeeyay
0 punch dancer spamz
0 raised by jews
0 sheerb jackoneill
1 spamz karlizl
0 tamas6
0 yaqh jackoneill
0 znark86 coffeeyay
Leaders as of post 187:
4 - filthyvermin
3 - coffeeyay
2 - jackoneill
2 - lolsteamroller
1 - dhcg86
1 - hookt
1 - karlizl
1 - Kurru
1 - polycarpus
1 - spamz
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04-26-2011 , 05:22 PM
I´m going to go read every post in this thread and find out who to vote, I´m a wolf btw.
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04-26-2011 , 05:23 PM
I was away most of the day, but just finished reading all the posts.

Vote: mersenneary for obvious reasons. I think his avatar is a double-level.

Hopefully I can be more active tomorrow :=).
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04-26-2011 , 05:25 PM
in that case im considering putting my vote on you... you seem to be on mers' villager list after that lengthy analysis you wrote, but you wrote that just after i pointed out how you conveniently got on the jackoneill wagon... but tbh I'd rather keep guys like you, mers, filthy and anyone else who contributes around, because you can be useful as **** as villagers.

Basically everyone I think might be a wolf right now is giving out a lot of info and contributing to the discussion, so I'd rather vote someone who hasn't really been that active...
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04-26-2011 , 05:25 PM
my last post was @ yaqh
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04-26-2011 , 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kurru
I was away most of the day, but just finished reading all the posts.

Vote: mersenneary for obvious reasons. I think his avatar is a double-level.

Hopefully I can be more active tomorrow :=).
way to be 100% useless.

I'm not in love with any of the current wagons. I also think voting for someone who is contributing nothing and throwing away their vote can't be that bad of an idea. It best, it's a wolf who is voting outside of the main wagons who are villagers so that he won't be suspected for voting a villager off. At worst we vote off a bad villager.

Kurru
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04-26-2011 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by bbq
in that case im considering putting my vote on you... you seem to be on mers' villager list after that lengthy analysis you wrote, but you wrote that just after i pointed out how you conveniently got on the jackoneill wagon... but tbh I'd rather keep guys like you, mers, filthy and anyone else who contributes around, because you can be useful as **** as villagers.

Basically everyone I think might be a wolf right now is giving out a lot of info and contributing to the discussion, so I'd rather vote someone who hasn't really been that active...
i'm one of only 2 people voting for jack -- that's hardly jumping on a wagon, and i gave my reasons.

tbh i agree that we should not be forgetting about the quiet people, but it's hard b/c it's so early that its hard to tell abotu them.
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04-26-2011 , 05:41 PM
out of the silent people maybe we should consider the people who normally have high posts activity but havent posted yet, especially if they have been online 2p2 since the start of the game
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04-26-2011 , 05:41 PM
I really like a spamz vote, and think it's better than a random dhcg vote. Spamz is smart, and his action so far gives a wolf lean. would be down for a Kurru/Spamz wagon
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04-26-2011 , 05:43 PM
^ saying his actions seem wolfy is a bit strong. It's just potentially wolfy. pop in, make a vote, say hi, lay low. Seems like a fairly rational thing to do as a wolf, and he's a fairly rational person.

Would also be a good person to kill because he's either being a good/smart wolf, or a fairly worthless villager atm.
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04-26-2011 , 05:46 PM
If your telling the whole village your selecting quiet people with high activity on the forum for the daily execution your not gonna catch any wolf right ?
+ killing smart people without a reasonable reason seems EV- since they are the villagers who can be the most valuable.
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04-26-2011 , 05:49 PM
Ill give Kurru my vote too. Just posting to post seems like a waste. May change my vote but who knows?

Vote Kurru
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