I'm not very good at keeping my mouth shut.

bob ross is an obvious villager. I don't care if the wolves never kill him, he should never be lynched.
raised by jews is an obvious villager. He should never be lynched.

This is based entirely on today's posts. I am quite certain.

i don't mean that we should necessarily be suspicious of the ppl he was suspicious of necessarily. i meant that if it looked seerish it could be a reason why he was NK'd.

if he happened to have gone 3/3 in his wolves list, that could be a good reason too.

i hate not being able to edit

hookt seems better than rbj rite now

I am aware that he was a seer. I am aware that he had 2 peeks. The wolves don't have to correctly identify the peeks or else the kill doesn't count. If he had 3 wolves on his list, that would be a good reason to kill him. Both of the dead wolves were pushed by mersennary, the wolf team might think he adopted one.

charder didn't offer lots of analysis or reasons so you could see how he got his reads. The best answer I have for why he was killed is his reads were too good. If his wolf reads are cribbed from others then they aren't too good. 3 right would be enough to attract attention.

If you are a villager, we can talk it out.

Chips, I can't quote it since I'm on my phone, but at 10:34am today I quoted something by jspazz, which had him advocating going after sheerb, moteusch, karlizl, and rbj.

Moteusch and karlizl were both killed villagers. Should this strongly suggest rbj and sheerb to be villa as well? (Particularly sheerb).

I put all my trust in Chips Ahoy, if he is a wolf i'll probably screw the entire game.

Reading some recent hookt posts.

¹ Outsourcing his read is wolfy in that wolves love to do it and villagers don't do it enough. Less wolfy for a new player.
² Believing wolves are super powerful / organized is villagery.

This is a hard post for a wolf to make. Villagers think wolves will be obvious and bold (they almost never are).
A false sense of urgency is super-wolfy. Focusing on the results of the lynch is super wolfy. Villagers worry about getting the right guy. Wolves only care about results and like to make promises.

Again super wolfy focusing on results.
Again the false sense of urgency.


False sense of urgency, focusing on results.
All about results. Wolfy.

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hookt has a lot that I find wolfy, but I do have doubt. My villagers are locks, my wolves are more like 50/50.

The conventional wisdom is that a wolf will put one wolf in such a list. The logic being they need to be able to point to places where they were right because being too wrong is bad for your health.

I do not subscribe to the conventional wisdom. I pretty much ignore the spew value of those kind of lists. More telling is who they interact with. Wolf / wolf interactions are hard to do well, most wolves ignore the other wolves.

Totals

8	sheerb
5	bob ross
4	raised by jews
4	znark86
2	hookt
2	jackoneill
1	duncelanas
0	bambam192 / Chips Ahoy
0	bbq
0	berksonz
0	chugenemes
0	earl
0	lolsteamroller
0	nine9 / LXThrottle
0	spamz
0	tamas6
0	yaqh

Everybody single one of those questions has the same interpretation. Those are things villagers do. So I tallied up the scores. We will find many wolves among the people who scored 0. I'm still open to improving the data if people disagree.

Just looking at this list, LXThrottle scoring 0 is suspicious -- he's experienced, he should be making waves.

Going back to jspazz post about lynching the inactive players, he conveniently left out nine9 (which is lxthrottle)

I haven't slept yet, so I don't know how much longer I'll last here. So let me throw in my best advice before I collapse.

The villagers are the people trying to solve the game.

No matter how wrong they are, how dumb they are, how crazy they are, how much they tilt you, if they are trying to solve the game then they are a villager.

You see villagers have something wolves lack: ignorance. The ignorance engages your mind and causes you to try to solve the puzzle. The result is insights, theories, etc. You'd think the wolves could fake it but they can't. They already have the answers so their brain refuses to try to solve a solved puzzle.

So take the people who aren't trying to solve the game and wagon them. If they react like villagers, then clear them. If they seem to accept their fate, they are wolves.

Villagers who are wagoned: fight! You owe it to your team to post early and often so they can figure out you are a villager. Wolves have good reason to throw in the towel under pressure, villagers do not.

Don't read too much into facts. Like voting for a wolf doesn't make somebody a villager. Wolves love facts because they can control them. They can't pretend to solve the puzzle though, only villagers can do that.

There you go. That's my best advice. Now lettuce lynch a wolf.

I am willing to listen to reason if you can tell me why, but bob and RBJ Imo came across as pretty wolfy atleast earlier in the game, and especially bob has not done much to redeem himself, he is good at picking wagons, but seems to have a penchant for being wrong whenever someone gets lynched from those wagons so far so it doesn't do us much good. And is also quite proficient at 'stirring **** up' as hookt might say. I am not feeling hookt as a wolf personally, ofcourse I could be wrong but me and hookt know each other pretty well so we do to some extent have an increased chance of soulreading. and when I read hookts soul I do not see a werewolf taint in it, I might just be blind to believeing one of my best internetm8s being a vicious monster wanting to eat me though.

How is chips cleared if RBJ turns out to be a wolf? If anything I would say the opposite is true.

what, sheerb is at the top? Sheerb has made like 6 posts in this thread, none of them being beyond 4 sentences.

Is this wrong?

Chips, amazing post! Ty ty for the insight.

Earl, only somewhat started a wagon on karlizl because he wasn't contributing. I learned right after that I didn't make a smart move with that.

I haven't started any other wagons against anyone who's been lynched a villager.

I've defended dhcg as a villa for a long while, and fwiw I've protected coffee, mers, bitchi and myself (all villas). Unfortunately it doesn't do any good but thought I'd share that.

Yes, if i had to make a list of sherb it would be this

12) Has made a small amount of posts, comes in every ones in a while and says something of no value then leaves.

Sheerb: 12.

By the way why is there no points for smart theories, only dumb ones? I cant help being a genius : ( and wtf does flipflopped mean ?

stopping from study for around one and a half hour, going to be watching real madri vs barcelona and checkin on the thread

YW Chips!

you should reread me again, I am sure I got tilted...

Hi,

I'm catching up. Could you quickly recap your thinking at EOD 3?

Here's the final vote count:

Leaders as of post 974:
8 - donjonnie
6 - jspazz
4 - tamas6
3 - bob ross
1 - lolsteamroller

In general I don't post too much because I don't want to make the thread harder to read + don't look like an idiot.

Im pretty sure all my posts had a reasoning behind it.

Success has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.

(flipflop. First say one thing, then the opposite. earl is a wolf! (later) earl is a villager!)

This is a 100000000000% perfect example of what every post of sheerb has been like basically, I mean haha he has 33 posts alllllltogether on 2+2, and he had like 20ish before he even joined the game I think.