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Originally Posted by miniwiz
Fold,and i take it you haven't been 3betting often since you have no reads in this spot.
That's correct, I hadn't 3bet him much.
Thinking about it now, I see that folding is correct. I feel that I'm often hindering my play by trying to take game-theoretical approach, ie. here I'd think that
a)I don't want to become exploitable and folding to minraise here could prove very exploitable.
b)That flop is dry, so he's repping pretty thin, ie. a T and sets basically. So the ratio of bluffs in his range should increase.
*I see that above lines are a bad way of thinking, but that's how my mind works in-game*
If I would be concentrating more on my reads, I would get lines like this:
a)While minraising here would be a very sophisticated bluff, it's very unlikely that even a winning player at this level would be able to take that line.
b)I actually felt he played solid and didn't bluff past usual c-bets. With that said I should see that he most likely has what he is repping, while it is a very narrow subset of hands from his PRF range.
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Originally Posted by ohly
anybody 3bets to a different amount? i don't wanna berate you on something that is probably right but i don't like the size of the pot in comparison to the stacksizes.
I got this idea of 3betting to 1/6 of relative stacks from Skates' videos pretty soon after starting to play HUSNGs. He didn't explain it much then, but I figured it sets up stacks well for two street play. I think there are other reasons too, like flop 3-bet shoving math, but I haven't delved into that.
But OK, let's say I make it exactly 250 at full stacks. The pot is now 500.
C-betting 1/2 pot then leaves us with exactly pot sized shove on turn and we need 33.3% equity against a shove.
C-betting 2/3 pot = 333 makes the pot 1166 if he calls with 917 = 78% of pot behind. If he shoves over, we need 917/3000 ~ 30.5%.
C-bet of 3/4 pot = 375 makes the pot 1250 with 875 = 70% of pot behind. We need 875/3000 ~ 29.2%.
That also means that after we c-bet, he can't shove over with a wide range because we'll usually only fold our total air.
I actually use the "1/6 rule" only if it doesn't make the sizing too weird and also more against an opponent who is capable of noticing the stack sizes and ratios, like in this example. Thanks for asking, I cleared it up for myself too a bit.