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33s Is stacking off here a leak? 33s Is stacking off here a leak?

09-23-2010 , 02:15 PM
Full Tilt Poker $33 + $1.50 Heads Up No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t15/t30 Blinds - 2 players
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BB: t1455 48.50 BBs
Hero (BTN/SB): t1545 51.50 BBs

Pre Flop: (t45) Hero is BTN/SB with A A
Hero raises to t90, BB calls t60

Flop: (t180) K Q 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t120, BB raises to t330, Hero ?

Villain is an unknown but he's 2-tabling so i assume he's a reg.
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09-23-2010 , 02:22 PM
stop leveling. If he has 2 pair then he has.
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09-23-2010 , 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Haluebet
If he has 2 pair then he has.
def

And if a guy is 2tabling that doesn't mean he is competent
I saw many regs raise/calling K7 here
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09-23-2010 , 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by HuSngLearner
def

And if a guy is 2tabling that doesn't mean he is competent
I saw many regs raise/calling K7 here
true story. i even 4table and im lolbad, mostly due to the fact i 4table.
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09-23-2010 , 02:49 PM
i think this is way thinner than most people suggest.
and i don't know what to do, ingame i probably shove as well.
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09-23-2010 , 02:59 PM
OK, I win at these things but I'm thinking differently from everyone else here, so explain to me why this isn't one of the simplest situations in poker: call-jam non-K/J/T turn, call-fold K/J/T turn (w/o reads as stated).
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09-23-2010 , 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ohly
i think this is way thinner than most people suggest.
this
call, what's the turn and action?
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09-23-2010 , 03:14 PM
given that we don't have any reads, I'm probably folding this cr. It really doesn't make sense for op to be doing this with anything less than 2p or better. Given that we raised preflop and we c bet this flop, our perceived range could definitely be things like KQ, KJ, K10, K9, QJ, Q10, etc. It just seems like villain is never really cr us with worse or at least with a hand that doesn't have a decent amount of equity in this pot.

I mean sure, he could have a hand like KJ, K10 some amount of the time here but it's seriously not going to be too often to justify us calling his cr. And even if he does have this hand then he still has a pretty decent amount of equity to improve by the river. Furthermore, this sets us up for a lot of ugly turn and river decisions so we have to see this hand not in isolation of what's happening on the flop but as a whole about what we're going to do on the turn and river.

Imo, this is def a fold this early on. The only time I'm going to be shoving here is if I really really really believed that op was fos and he was some aggro-maniac ******. That's the only time I'm going to be shoving here. Other then that, just fold this hand.
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09-23-2010 , 03:25 PM
meh, you can't really do too much wrong in this spot..
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09-23-2010 , 03:25 PM
I would flat and puke when villain fires turn
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09-23-2010 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kantor1003
I would flat and puke when villain fires turn
yeah because rando villains don't barrel 90% of turns here with their entire flop c/r range...


o wait, they do
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09-23-2010 , 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by TGSM89
yeah because rando villains don't barrel 90% of turns here with their entire flop c/r range...


o wait, they do
yeah, they do it 90% or more. I don't deny that - thats why I said I'd puke WHEN villain fires, not if.
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09-23-2010 , 03:34 PM
Call,and GII on a blank if he bets.

Oh and btw you are ~40% against a really tight range like str/2pair/KJ/KT
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